Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Mar 2017 19:57 UTC
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Modern computer science is dominated by men. But it hasn't always been this way.

A lot of computing pioneers - the people who programmed the first digital computers - were women. And for decades, the number of women studying computer science was growing faster than the number of men. But in 1984, something changed. The percentage of women in computer science flattened, and then plunged, even as the share of women in other technical and professional fields kept rising.

What happened?

An older article from 2014 that - sadly - just refuses to become irrelevant.

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RE[3]: Comment by mramsey
by ianm on Tue 28th Mar 2017 04:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by mramsey"
ianm
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What a load of BS.

Men and women are fundamentally different (despite the brainwashing you have undergone). Men are typically attracted to technical roles and women are typically attracted to people focused careers.

A STEM focused female is far more likely to be interested in a career in medicine or dentistry than software or engineering.

Shareholders are only interested in the bottom line. They don't give a f*ck about about diversity.


This is unsubstantiated nonsense. Women are motivated to avoid falling with people who promote bigoted nonsense like this, and there is apparently an oversupply of this type of person in IT workplaces. This opinion has no foundation in valid science; it's just sexist BS.

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RE[4]: Comment by mramsey
by unclefester on Tue 28th Mar 2017 08:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by mramsey"
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2007-01-13

See my above post regarding the Cambridge meta-analysis. showing that male and female brains are structurally different.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-differ-in-spec...

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RE[5]: Comment by mramsey
by ianm on Tue 28th Mar 2017 21:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mramsey"
ianm Member since:
2010-08-16

See my above post that debunks your bigoted nonsense.

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RE[4]: Comment by mramsey
by TheNorseWind on Tue 28th Mar 2017 19:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by mramsey"
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2015-07-21

"This is unsubstantiated nonsense. Women are motivated to avoid falling with people who promote bigoted nonsense like this, and there is apparently an oversupply of this type of person in IT workplaces. This opinion has no foundation in valid science; it's just sexist BS."

Given that you can develop on your own, and ask questions on forums without ever giving your gender, why should they have to fall in with anybody at all?

I admit that it's harder to go solo as an OS or business suite developer, so let's use web development as a control: A List Apart claims that over 80% of web developers were male as of 2009. That's a field that can be learned independently, and in which many of the customers will be female.

Yet it's still overwhelmingly male. Why?

Edited 2017-03-28 19:57 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by mramsey
by ianm on Fri 31st Mar 2017 04:05 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mramsey"
ianm Member since:
2010-08-16

The kind of shitty behaviour that drives women away from tech begins in grade school and just gets worse. I taught tech in high school and grade school for ten years, and had lots of success getting young women involved. It was a constant struggle to overcome cultural attitudes, but it had nothing to do with aptitude or interest.

If you systematically treat people like garbage, and act like a lot of the obnoxious neckbeards that seem to troll around here, you will drive them away.

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