Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Apr 2017 00:02 UTC
Apple

As we learned this week, the 2013 trash can Mac Pro is going to... Well... The trash can. Apple has promised a new "modular" Mac Pro for sometime after 2017.

In the light of this news, I thought it would be interesting to look back a model, to the "cheese grater" Mac Pros Apple sold from 2006 until 2013.

The cheesegrater is a truly iconic Mac. I love it.

On a related note, here's some interesting tidbits and nuggets I've picked up regarding the new Mac Pro from people and sources who know their stuff. The Mac Pro was in limbo inside Apple. The decision to go ahead and develop a modular Mac Pro replacement seems to have been made only in recent months, with development starting only a few weeks ago, which makes it clear why Apple said it won't ship this year. I have no idea how long it takes to develop a new computer like a Mac Pro, but I think we can expect the new Mac Pro late 2018 at the earliest, but most likely it won't be until early 2019 before it ships.

What made Apple do a 180? Well, after the announcement of the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar, orders for refurbished "old" MacBook Pros supposedly went through the roof, and after the initial batch of reviews came out, they shot up even higher. This response to the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar took Apple completely by surprise. Combined with the problems surrounding the LG UltraFine 5K display and the constant negativity from professional Apple users, the company decided to double down on professional users.

As Apple announced, we'll be getting a new Mac Pro and an iMac Pro as a result. In addition, Apple is said to be exploring additional Retina MacBook Pro models without the Touch Bar, and other pro-oriented features, such as hooking an iPad Pro up to a Mac to use it as a Cintiq-like device.

All in all, there is definitely excitement in the air regarding professional Mac use, and to be honest - that's been a while. Personally, I'm still very cautious, because in the end, all we got yesterday was a more official version of Tim Cook's endless "we've got great stuff in the pipeline, trust us!" meme that's been going on for a few years now.

Until we get it - and that may still be 2 years away - the new Mac Pro is vapourware.

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RE: the future "modular"
by Flatland_Spider on Thu 6th Apr 2017 15:52 UTC in reply to "the future "modular""
Flatland_Spider
Member since:
2006-09-01

The current Mac Pro would make a great Mac Mini Pro. Getting stuck with 1x proc and 1-2x GPUs isn't a great look. It really needed to allow a much wider array of options. A chassis with the ability to accept some combination of 1-4x procs, 1-4x GPUs, or 1-6x Phis with 4x NVMe slots would have made people pretty happy.

An ecosystem like that would be great for laptops, and we're slowly getting there.

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RE[2]: the future "modular"
by laffer1 on Thu 6th Apr 2017 19:26 in reply to "RE: the future "modular""
laffer1 Member since:
2007-11-09

That's actually a great point. The trashcan mac quad core could go for $1500 and it would still blow out the 2014 mac mini.

In reality, apple built a second g4 cube but made it a cylinder this time and that was a ripoff of the next cube. It failed in the market 3 times now. I wonder when they'll try it again.

Apple needs to finally give us all what we want:

1. Upgradable mac mini with optional real processor option (non ultrabook, quad core.. think 2012 mac mini high end)
2. Mac Pro with updated xeon cpus. Perhaps a lowend version with a 6800k.
3. Stock iMac with a core i7 reference chip.... 7700k or similar.
4. super slow, cheap beater mac mini with anemic CPU to compute with lowend HP garbage like Tim wants to build. (this is just for tim, i don't think consumers like it)

I should be able to walk into an apple store and come out with a computer containing:
1. At least a core i7 desktop CPU or better
2. 512GB disk space or better (SSD/nvme required)
3. 16GB or more. if it's soldered, 32GB.
4. Upgradable or double the specs on RAM and disk.
5. A GPU that can play games. It should be able to run diablo 3, starcraft 2 and WoW at max or near max settings as these are all old games at this point. 2 of these can be done with intel GPU.

I shouldn't have to special order it. I shouldn't have to watch my PC from 2013 smoke a new mac. (it's got a 4770 i7 and 32GB ram with SSD and Radeon Fury x nitro)

Prior to tim, we had progress:
1. Games were getting ported and ran. 90% of the games I wanted to play had mac versions too.
2. Apple had high end and low end macs. The lowend macs were a bit pricey still but one could save up for them. Apple always prices like everyone lives in new york city or cupertino ignoring how much money a mac is to a guy in nebraska.
3. Apple had ENTERPRISE hardware. Xserves, Xserve raid, a server OS that wasn't a total joke but needed work.
4. Apple had headphone jacks.
5. Apple had growth in iOS devices across the board.
6. Most people that had used a mac would recommend one.
7. Johnny Ive wasn't calling all the shots. The mac pro trash can should have never happened.

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RE[3]: the future "modular"
by TedT on Thu 6th Apr 2017 21:02 in reply to "RE[2]: the future "modular""
TedT Member since:
2017-04-06

...
Prior to tim, we had progress:
1. Games were getting ported and ran. 90% of the games I wanted to play had mac versions too.
2. Apple had high end and low end macs. The lowend macs were a bit pricey still but one could save up for them. Apple always prices like everyone lives in new york city or cupertino ignoring how much money a mac is to a guy in nebraska.
3. Apple had ENTERPRISE hardware. Xserves, Xserve raid, a server OS that wasn't a total joke but needed work.
4. Apple had headphone jacks.
5. Apple had growth in iOS devices across the board.
6. Most people that had used a mac would recommend one.
7. Johnny Ive wasn't calling all the shots. The mac pro trash can should have never happened.

There has been a Mac released without a headphone jack?!?
iOS devices not growing? What are we complaining about iPod Touch? iPads, which except for the piles of minis that sold before the iPhone 6/7 Plus are growing.

That said, getting rid of Toslink audio output on some Macs is killing me. And I agree that they should have persisted with the Enterprise servers/macOS. And saying that "the mac pro trashcan should never have happened" - the G4 Mac Cube certainly did happen - Steve was just as prone to mistakes as Tim is -- and I wouldn't be surprised if some people keep their Trash Cans as long as Cube buyer kept theirs...

FWIW, my favorite (personally owned) Macs: the original 128K Mac (the Cube of its day), Mac SE, the 2009 cheese grater Mac Pro (still in heavy use), and the 2013 retina MacBookPro (still in heavy use)

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RE[3]: the future "modular"
by viton on Mon 10th Apr 2017 13:41 in reply to "RE[2]: the future "modular""
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

The mac pro trash can should have never happened.

For me it is the most awesome mac to date. But the price is exorbitant. At $1500 with "ordinary" i7 and single beefy GPU it would be perfect.

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