Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Apr 2017 00:02 UTC
Apple

As we learned this week, the 2013 trash can Mac Pro is going to... Well... The trash can. Apple has promised a new "modular" Mac Pro for sometime after 2017.

In the light of this news, I thought it would be interesting to look back a model, to the "cheese grater" Mac Pros Apple sold from 2006 until 2013.

The cheesegrater is a truly iconic Mac. I love it.

On a related note, here's some interesting tidbits and nuggets I've picked up regarding the new Mac Pro from people and sources who know their stuff. The Mac Pro was in limbo inside Apple. The decision to go ahead and develop a modular Mac Pro replacement seems to have been made only in recent months, with development starting only a few weeks ago, which makes it clear why Apple said it won't ship this year. I have no idea how long it takes to develop a new computer like a Mac Pro, but I think we can expect the new Mac Pro late 2018 at the earliest, but most likely it won't be until early 2019 before it ships.

What made Apple do a 180? Well, after the announcement of the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar, orders for refurbished "old" MacBook Pros supposedly went through the roof, and after the initial batch of reviews came out, they shot up even higher. This response to the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar took Apple completely by surprise. Combined with the problems surrounding the LG UltraFine 5K display and the constant negativity from professional Apple users, the company decided to double down on professional users.

As Apple announced, we'll be getting a new Mac Pro and an iMac Pro as a result. In addition, Apple is said to be exploring additional Retina MacBook Pro models without the Touch Bar, and other pro-oriented features, such as hooking an iPad Pro up to a Mac to use it as a Cintiq-like device.

All in all, there is definitely excitement in the air regarding professional Mac use, and to be honest - that's been a while. Personally, I'm still very cautious, because in the end, all we got yesterday was a more official version of Tim Cook's endless "we've got great stuff in the pipeline, trust us!" meme that's been going on for a few years now.

Until we get it - and that may still be 2 years away - the new Mac Pro is vapourware.

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RE[3]: the future "modular"
by TedT on Thu 6th Apr 2017 21:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: the future "modular""
TedT
Member since:
2017-04-06

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Prior to tim, we had progress:
1. Games were getting ported and ran. 90% of the games I wanted to play had mac versions too.
2. Apple had high end and low end macs. The lowend macs were a bit pricey still but one could save up for them. Apple always prices like everyone lives in new york city or cupertino ignoring how much money a mac is to a guy in nebraska.
3. Apple had ENTERPRISE hardware. Xserves, Xserve raid, a server OS that wasn't a total joke but needed work.
4. Apple had headphone jacks.
5. Apple had growth in iOS devices across the board.
6. Most people that had used a mac would recommend one.
7. Johnny Ive wasn't calling all the shots. The mac pro trash can should have never happened.

There has been a Mac released without a headphone jack?!?
iOS devices not growing? What are we complaining about iPod Touch? iPads, which except for the piles of minis that sold before the iPhone 6/7 Plus are growing.

That said, getting rid of Toslink audio output on some Macs is killing me. And I agree that they should have persisted with the Enterprise servers/macOS. And saying that "the mac pro trashcan should never have happened" - the G4 Mac Cube certainly did happen - Steve was just as prone to mistakes as Tim is -- and I wouldn't be surprised if some people keep their Trash Cans as long as Cube buyer kept theirs...

FWIW, my favorite (personally owned) Macs: the original 128K Mac (the Cube of its day), Mac SE, the 2009 cheese grater Mac Pro (still in heavy use), and the 2013 retina MacBookPro (still in heavy use)

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RE[4]: the future "modular"
by bryanv on Thu 6th Apr 2017 21:22 in reply to "RE[3]: the future "modular""
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

The thing about the Cube.... was that it sold _alongside_ tower options at the time.

The Trashcan _replaced_ the tower units. There is no other choice for a headless CPU that isn't a 'mini'.

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RE[5]: the future "modular"
by Morgan on Fri 7th Apr 2017 01:16 in reply to "RE[4]: the future "modular""
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

That's just it though: The G4 Mini was the "replacement" for the G4 Cube. Smaller, quieter, less expandable, less expensive, and slower...but it was the new Cube. It even had the same shape looking down from the top.

Now, we have the 2013 Mac Pro (trashcan) that is the replacement for the tower Mac Pro; again, smaller, quieter, less expandable, and slower. The only real difference is the Trashcan was technically more expensive than what it replaced, if you consider that you pay the same for less expansion.

To put it another way, nothing has really changed apart from the move from PowerPC to Intel; since the G4 days we've had a low end headless desktop and a "Pro" headless desktop.

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

I'm going to disagree about keeping the servers going. If they were interested in servers, they should have bought Sun.

I will conceded there are management tools bundled with MacOS Server, but MacOS server on a VM would fill that niche just fine without needing to build hardware for it.

They could even drop MacOS server if they would work with the FOSS community. They could contribute to FreeIPA for example, and provide GUI tools in MacOS to setup everything that needs to be setup for authentication. The technology is there.

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