Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd May 2017 15:41 UTC
Microsoft

Microsoft's education press event just wrapped up, and two announcements stood out. First and foremost, the company unveiled Windows 10 S. Windows 10 S is exactly the same as regular Windows 10, except in that it's locked to applications available in the Windows Store. Note that this doesn't mean it can't run Win32 applications; it runs Win32 applications, but only those available in the Windows Store. Users can upgrade Windows 10 S to Windows 10 Pro for 50 dollars to allow the use of non-Windows Store applications.

The second announcement that stood out was a new hardware device: the Surface Laptop. Aimed straight at college/university students currently probably buying MacBooks, the Surface Laptop is a downright beautiful machine with all the current specifications we've come to expect from a modern laptop, such as Core i5 and i7 processors, SSD storage, a 2250x1500 13.5" display, and a battery life of 14.5 hours. Starting price will be $999. Americans can order today, and it will ship 15 June.

It's available in four colours, and one of those colours is burgundy, so everything else is invalid and a waste of time, because the burgundy model is the only model that counts. I really don't want to go back to a laptop with a fixed keyboard, but at the same time, burgundy. All your arguments and facts and reasoning and fake news are irrelevant now.

In all seriousness, this looks like a great laptop, aimed directly at Apple's popularity among college students. As usual, there's no word on when this thing comes to The Netherlands (nobody cares about us), but once it does, I'm going to have a seriously hard time not buying a specced-out burgundy model.

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Uhmmmm
by brostenen on Tue 2nd May 2017 19:52 UTC
brostenen
Member since:
2007-01-16

Yeah... It's awefull. Not going to buy.

I want ports, ports and optical drive on my laptop. Give me something like 6 usb ports, and a dvd-burner. I want power, 15 inch screen, cool running machines and no noise. Then I will be a happy champ.

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RE: Uhmmmm
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 2nd May 2017 20:38 in reply to "Uhmmmm"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Agreed with everything except optical drive. When is the last time you used one?

I've found I'm fine with just an external drive for that once a year use case.

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RE[2]: Uhmmmm
by FlyingJester on Tue 2nd May 2017 22:29 in reply to "RE: Uhmmmm"
FlyingJester Member since:
2016-05-11

I have a 17 inch laptop, and I've used my external DVD drive at least twice a month since I got the laptop late last year.

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RE[2]: Uhmmmm
by kwanbis on Tue 2nd May 2017 23:03 in reply to "RE: Uhmmmm"
kwanbis Member since:
2005-07-06

Agree with you. I removed the DVD burner from ThinkPad 520 about 3 or 4 years ago, to make room for a second hard drive, and have never needed it once (well, just the once to rip a CD).

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RE: Uhmmmm
by modmans2ndcoming on Wed 3rd May 2017 01:37 in reply to "Uhmmmm"
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

dude....you want a behemoth from 5 years ago.

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RE[2]: Uhmmmm
by Alfman on Wed 3rd May 2017 02:14 in reply to "RE: Uhmmmm"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

modmans2ndcoming,

dude....you want a behemoth from 5 years ago.



That would be great. I agree with Bill Shooter of Bul: go ahead and drop the CD, but keep the ports, those are still very essential to me. I don't want to carry around any damned dongles! I still do a lot of work that requires ethernet, it's faster anyways. Gimme SD, USB, headphone, HDMI too.

Don't forget reducing size also means giving up a better battery and CPU. I already mentioned it in another post: I loved the layout on my old laptop, I just want updated specs! When it's too thin it can feel fragile and becomes less robust against physical deformations:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/unbalanced-wobbly-keyboard.1867...

It seems many manufacturers are following the trend to go razor thin, and that's fine for some consumers, but for others it may compromise too much.

Edited 2017-05-03 02:19 UTC

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RE: Uhmmmm
by Soulbender on Wed 3rd May 2017 04:12 in reply to "Uhmmmm"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

6 usb ports

Just buy a hub, dude.

a dvd-burner

...why? Fine, just get a USB DVD burner.


cool running machines and no noise

I haven't heard anything about the Surface running hotter and noisier than other similar systems.

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RE[2]: Uhmmmm
by FooBat on Wed 3rd May 2017 06:37 in reply to "RE: Uhmmmm"
FooBat Member since:
2016-09-08

"6 usb ports

Just buy a hub, dude.
"


Yeah, if you're going to use 6 USB ports on a laptop, it's obviously no longer anywhere near portable. A decent USB hub would be 10 times more convenient and practical than connecting 6+ devices directly to the laptop. I mean, your laptop would look like some kind of weird octopus and it would take good 5 minutes just to disconnect all those things properly.
I really like the idea of docking stations, like with my MacBook Pro: there are few ports, but the ones that exist are incredibly high-throughput (Thunderbolt), so that I can use just a one single cable to attach a docking station, which then connects gazillion of devices at once: external HDD, external SSD, a very large USB drive (for Time Machine backups), external 32" monitor, huge external speakers, wired ethernet, 9-port USB hub, card reader... And I still have room (both port-wise and throughput-wise) for more.
Now imagine if I had to connect all those things DIRECTLY to my laptop. It would likely become stationary forever, since it would be too bothersome to disconnect and reconnect all that every time I want to go.

Edited 2017-05-03 06:38 UTC

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RE: Uhmmmm
by FooBat on Wed 3rd May 2017 06:14 in reply to "Uhmmmm"
FooBat Member since:
2016-09-08

Yeah... It's awefull. Not going to buy.

I want ports, ports and optical drive on my laptop. Give me something like 6 usb ports, and a dvd-burner. I want power, 15 inch screen, cool running machines and no noise. Then I will be a happy champ.

Optical drive?.. Would you also like floppy drive? Seriously, optical disks are now in the same category as floppy drives.

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RE[2]: Uhmmmm
by FlyingJester on Thu 4th May 2017 00:20 in reply to "RE: Uhmmmm"
FlyingJester Member since:
2016-05-11

Not really, since UEFI banished the boot capabilities of all computers back to the dark ages. Booting from CD is now WAY easier than booting from USB if you end up with one of the terrible EFI implementations, which are quite common.

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RE: Uhmmmm... Just Bridge It.
by dionicio on Thu 4th May 2017 00:25 in reply to "Uhmmmm"
dionicio Member since:
2006-07-12

Don't Believe in any corraling here. It's about weight.

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