Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Jun 2017 09:41 UTC
Apple

Drag and Drop has arrived in iOS 11! Learn the fundamentals behind the new iOS Drag and Drop - architecture and APIs. This session will go over the design goals, architecture and key components of the API to allow you to quickly adopt Drag and Drop in your App.

Drag and drop seems like a boring feature, but on iOS 11 and the iPad, it's actually quite interesting and implemented in a novel way. This WWDC session starts with a demo, showing off how you can use multiple fingers to drag multiple things, combine different dragged objects, while still being able to interact with other touch UI elements. Sadly, Apple decided to cripple drag and drop on the iPhone, restricting it to only being able to drag and drop within a single application.

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RE[4]: Wow
by Tony Swash on Sat 10th Jun 2017 18:02 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

Tony Swash,

"What a silly comment. During the original iPhone launch event Steve Jobs (rightly) rejected using a stylus as a generic input system. The Pencil is not a generic input system. The Pencil is a specialist tool for graphic creation used by a small but important group of creative content creators. If you cannot see the difference then there is something wrong with you.


I personally disagree, the bluntness of fingers has an adverse effect on general usability. Even one of the most basic tasks at work and school, taking notes, remains quite problematic without a stylus or keyboard. Ever since the touch input came around, data entry has remained tedious. I'm not exaggerating in the least when I say I prefer pencil and paper compared to a phone/tablet without a stylus. Websites themselves are being dumbed down to compensate for the inadequacies of blunt input on mobiles.

And that's the main problem as I see it, the only way we can make the argument that input precision is only important to some special niche is by first dumbing down the expectations for the general population.
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The comment and my response was not about the desirability of using a stylus as opposed to a finger on a touch interface. The comment was suggesting that by introducing the Pencil Apple had somehow been forced to admit that Jobs was wrong in his original comments about using a stylus during the iPhone launch keynote.

My response was that the original commentator was wrong and that it was a silly thing to say because even a cursory viewing of the the original Jobs keynote would make it absolutely clear that Jobs comments about the stylus were referring to the use of a stylus as the general and main way to interact with a touch screen.

Anybody who thinks that the Apple Pencil is designed to be, or is actually being used as, the main way to interact with the touch screen on an iPad is being deliberately obtuse.

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RE[5]: Wow
by Alfman on Sat 10th Jun 2017 19:06 in reply to "RE[4]: Wow"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Tony Swash,

My response was that the original commentator was wrong and that it was a silly thing to say because even a cursory viewing of the the original Jobs keynote would make it absolutely clear that Jobs comments about the stylus were referring to the use of a stylus as the general and main way to interact with a touch screen.
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Anybody who thinks that the Apple Pencil is designed to be, or is actually being used as, the main way to interact with the touch screen on an iPad is being deliberately obtuse.



There's plenty of room to disagree with steve jobs, even if you choose not to. By not including a stylus as standard, it changed the course of mobile technology. Developers would be putting the stylus to good use in their applications if it were standard. High precision interactions are automatically ruled out specifically because consumers lack stylus input on their mobile devices.

Speaking of stylus interfaces, I'm reminded of the microsoft courier technology demo from so many years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpftPSuXe4

You gotta admit it's cool. If apple had incorporated a stylus in this way, I'm sure you'd be a fan of it for regular users ;) All these years later and it still looks better than what we've got.

Edited 2017-06-10 19:18 UTC

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RE[6]: Wow
by Megol on Sat 10th Jun 2017 19:57 in reply to "RE[5]: Wow"
Megol Member since:
2011-04-11

An intelligent way to do it is supporting an active stylus and detect when the stylus is used to adapt the interface. However that removes the choice how to use a device from Apple and places it in the hands of the user - and Jobs didn't like that.

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