Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Jun 2017 12:07 UTC
Apple

In what is surely the greatest bit of irony in the tech industry this week, a recording of an internal Apple briefing on countering leaking has leaked. Tons of interesting insight in the article covering the recording, but this bit jumped out at me, because I never put two and two together in this regard:

Apple's Chinese workers have plenty of incentive to leak or smuggle parts. "A lot, like 99.9 percent, of these folks are good people who are coming to a place that has a job, they're gonna make money, and they're gonna go back and start a business in their province or they're gonna do something else with it, support their family," Rice says. "But there's a whole slew of folks that can be tempted because what happens if I offer you, say, three months' salary?' In some cases we've seen up to a year's worth of salary being rewarded for stealing product out of the factory." Apple workers on the production line make approximately $350 a month, not including overtime, according to a 2016 report from China Labor Watch.

It never dawned on me that leaks could be the result of underpaid factory workers.

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Ya think?
by aliver on Wed 21st Jun 2017 16:43 UTC
aliver
Member since:
2011-03-19

Fatcats never cease to amaze me. These guys offshore to some 3rd world hellhole (Yes, China, I'm talking about you) to folks who are once step above slaves or indentured servants and they wonder how their products and designs leak out? Unbelievable. These people actually expect faithful employees as they race to the bottom. Pure genius.

I would say this is chickens coming home to roost for the suit-weasels, but it's nowhere near enough payback. It's merely just a minor problem compared to the heaps of profits they make.

Apple runs quite a few sweatshops in China. That's a well known and well documented fact. I quit buying Apple products when they quit making them in America. Good riddance.

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RE: Ya think?
by unclefester on Thu 22nd Jun 2017 09:39 in reply to "Ya think?"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Fatcats never cease to amaze me. These guys offshore to some 3rd world hellhole (Yes, China, I'm talking about you) to folks who are once step above slaves or indentured servants and they wonder how their products and designs leak out? Unbelievable. These people actually expect faithful employees as they race to the bottom. Pure genius.


China's standard of living has improved immeasurably in the past 30 years. These workers would easily earn 10x as much (adjusted for infaltion) as their parents did 30 years ago.

In 1982 my university politics professor told us that there were more private cars and telephones in Soweto (a South African apartheid era slum) than in the whole of China.

Edited 2017-06-22 09:40 UTC

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RE[2]: Ya think?
by Lennie on Thu 22nd Jun 2017 17:17 in reply to "RE: Ya think?"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I would think even more than 10x, growth in wages was 12% per year. That would work like compound interest.

China became to expensive and some labor got moved to countries like Bangladesh.

The way automation/robots, etc. is improving and how well economies are functioning now (aka not so good) in the coming decades Bangladesh will not reach the same level China is now and other countries will not be able to reach the same level Bangladesh is now in the same way China did and the path Bangladesh has started on.

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RE: Ya think?
by viton on Thu 22nd Jun 2017 18:06 in reply to "Ya think?"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

These guys offshore to some 3rd world hellhole (Yes, China, I'm talking about you) to folks who are once step above slaves or indentured servants


'Muricans are so exceptional.
Do you know this 3rd world hellhole company Foxconn will invest 10 billions in rusty ex-democracy paradise to build several factories and create 10 000 jobs? =)

Edited 2017-06-22 18:07 UTC

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RE[2]: Ya think?
by weckart on Fri 23rd Jun 2017 08:17 in reply to "RE: Ya think?"
weckart Member since:
2006-01-11

Foxconn is Taiwanese. Not Chinese.

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RE: Ya think?
by Kochise on Thu 22nd Jun 2017 19:25 in reply to "Ya think?"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

But they produce the greenest non reparable products! And they keep their astronomical profits offshore to also prevent paying back us consumers through taxes.

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RE: Ya think?
by tylerdurden on Sat 24th Jun 2017 03:34 in reply to "Ya think?"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

China 3rd world? LOL.

It's amusing to me how some terms/words are so misused that at some point they lose all their meaning and they become this weird placeholder for *just something I don't like or agree with*

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