Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jul 2017 17:29 UTC
IBM

You may not know the Model F by name, but you know it by sound - the musical thwacking of flippers slapping away. The sound of the '80s office. The IBM Model F greeting the world in 1981 with a good ten pounds of die-cast zinc and keys that crash down on buckling metal springs as they descend. It's a sensation today's clickiest keyboards chase, but will never catch. And now it's coming back.

I used several of these growing up, and I've come to understand I'm the only one who didn't - and doesn't - like mechanical keyboards one bit - I find them tiring and way too loud. I want the thinnest possible keyboard with the shortest possible travel while still having a decent, satisfying, but very quiet click. I find Apple's Magic Keyboard is the exact right keyboard for me, but I also know I'll be one of the very few, especially on a site like OSNews.

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RE: Microsoft Natural 4000
by Troels on Wed 19th Jul 2017 07:58 UTC in reply to "Microsoft Natural 4000"
Troels
Member since:
2005-07-11

Good thing i scanned the comments before writing, as i would pretty much have written a duplicate of your comment :-)

I love it too, probably the only thing bearing the Microsoft name that i actually like other than a few of their developer frameworks.

I used to love the Model M, the F layout felt antiquated very early on, but these days it is way too noisy and takes too much effort to type on. With the noise level though, imagine sharing an office with someone using one of these...

For me the chiclet keyboards like the Apple keyboards are okayish on laptops for occasional use, but give me one full time and i would kill myself, or someone, or something, within a few days. Someone should make a law against these, preferably at the same time introducing a law against calculators with squishy rubber buttons (or wobbly hard plastic buttons, i am looking at you TI)

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RE[2]: Microsoft Natural 4000
by xristos on Wed 19th Jul 2017 13:46 in reply to "RE: Microsoft Natural 4000"
xristos Member since:
2014-04-25

I got an Apple chicklet keyboard when they first came out, because they looked cool. One month into using it (I'm a programmer and do a lot of typing), my wrists started hurting bad!

That is (to me) the most evil keyboard ever created.

I suppose it's ok if you just want to compose a quick email, hit "send", and then throw the keyboard in the trash.. or if you just hate having hands for some reason.

The second time I remember thinking to myself "this is freaking evil" was when all the PC laptop manufacturers got together and all decided that it was a great idea to add a numerical keypad to laptops. Shifting the keyboard, spacebar, and touch pad to the left side of the laptop.

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RE[3]: Microsoft Natural 4000
by Troels on Wed 19th Jul 2017 14:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Microsoft Natural 4000"
Troels Member since:
2005-07-11

My problem with sore wrists also started when i started programming. I haven't had any problems since i got my first Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro waaay back when the mouse had a ball in it and you could kill someone with the receiver. Wow, i think it must have been back in the 90s.... I am getting old. I actually still use the keyboard on our secondary computer, but the non-optical mouse was retired many years ago.

While i do find the apple keyboards utterly evil, they pale in comparison with the flat apple mouse... When my arm is relaxed, the angle of my wrist and hand fits just right with the logitech style ergonomic mice, and not at all with the symmetric flat types like apples mouse.

I don't mind them pushing the keyboard and trackpad a bit to the left on laptops, i just wish they didnt waste the space adding a numeric keyboard. I would much rather have proper space for arrow keys and the block with insert, delete, home, etc. With actual spacing between them and the other keys so the layout matches a desktop keyboard.

Speaking about Apple being evil, on my Macbook Pro 17" last generation, the corners of the indentation on the front of the base that lets you open the lid, they are so damn sharp that after 30 minutes of use, the skin on my wrists are getting irritated by brushing against them. I hope they have fixed this in later models, but that is REALLY annoying, and they could just have rounded the damn corners - like they did with all the other corners on the thing....

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RE[3]: Microsoft Natural 4000
by ssokolow on Fri 21st Jul 2017 03:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Microsoft Natural 4000"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

The second time I remember thinking to myself "this is freaking evil" was when all the PC laptop manufacturers got together and all decided that it was a great idea to add a numerical keypad to laptops. Shifting the keyboard, spacebar, and touch pad to the left side of the laptop.


I always assumed it was an ill-considered way to keep the lower half of the laptop from looking too empty as a result of switching to widescreen LCDs.

(Another decision I've never been a fan of. My desktop PC uses a spread of three 1280x1024 LCDs and I'm about to swap the centre one out for a 1920x1080 panel (which I got for free) because there are too many indie games which were designed to run in a widescreen resolution and the only option for a 1280x1024 configuration is "widescreen, windowed, too small".)

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