Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Aug 2017 20:29 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

The Verge does this thing where they list what they consider to be the best laptop or phone or whatever, and they state the Samsung Galaxy S8 is the best phone for most people.

Samsung's Galaxy S8/S8 Plus is the best phone for most people. It's available across all four US carriers and unlocked. It has the best display on any smartphone right now, a head-turning, premium design, a top-of-the-line camera, reliable battery life, and fast performance. Thanks to Samsung's popularity and the support of all four carriers, the S8 also has plenty of accessories, from cases to battery packs to wireless chargers, available to it.

You can definitely make a case for the S8 being the best phone for most people, but personally, I still consider the iPhone to be the best, safest choice for most non-geeky people. Personally, I prefer Android, and for my personal use, iOS on the iPhone is an exercise in frustration - but iOS provides a more consistent, all-around phone experience that remains fairly static from phone to phone, it's a little simpler to grasp than Android, and Apple has an excellent support system in many countries that's far better than Samsung's hands-off let-the-reseller-handle-it approach.

I wonder - what do any of you consider the best phone for most people? If one of your non-geeky family members seeks your advice, which phone do you suggest they get?

The Verge named the Surface Laptop the best laptop, which I find a baffling choice. It's new and unproven, so we have no idea how it'll hold up over the next few years. An odd choice for sure.

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RE[14]: iPhone
by woegjiub on Fri 11th Aug 2017 07:52 UTC in reply to "RE[13]: iPhone"
woegjiub
Member since:
2008-11-25

Just because you think you know how to do some server-side programming does not make you "advanced user"


That's extremely belittling. Please keep your tone civil.
My job is literally programming. I don't "think I know some programming".

It's far more advanced to use daemons and software I've written to do the things I want than it is to f--k around with GUIs. I don't need to click buttons and use menus, instead I can directly modify files, databases, etc. It's more efficient, and more difficult. How is that less advanced?


I see coworkers with multiple monitors and hundreds of tabs and apps open, yet at the end of the day I'm more productive with vim and almost nothing else. Remember that the human brain can't actually multitask; we serial single task.
If you think you need multiple things open at once, chances are you'd be better served with a higher level single task that abstracts them both away and gets what you need from each.

Edited 2017-08-11 08:11 UTC

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RE[15]: iPhone
by CATs on Fri 11th Aug 2017 08:31 in reply to "RE[14]: iPhone"
CATs Member since:
2017-06-09

That's extremely belittling. Please keep your tone civil.
My job is literally programming. I don't "think I know some programming".

That's just your opinion. I still do not believe anyone else apart from yourself would call you "advanced user" or "good programmer". And I base this on the things you wrote here, nothing else.

It's far more advanced to use daemons and software I've written to do the things I want than it is to f--k around with GUIs.

No, it is not. Not at all. Only people who are incapable of taking full advantage of GUI think like that. GUIs are too complicated for them, they don't understand them, so they stay in the console, mucking around in low level and thinking GUIs are lame. When in reality, advanced user with a good GUI can work in ways so advanced, complex and productive that it's completely beyond your comprehension.

I don't need to click buttons and use menus, instead I can directly modify files, databases, etc. It's more efficient, and more difficult. How is that less advanced?

It is less advanced because you are absolutely clueless how other people use computers in ways much more powerful than you to do very different kind of work. Anyone with 2 brain cells can type characters in a black window all day. But it takes some advanced brain to be able to juggle complex and flexible GUI in an effective and efficient way.

I see coworkers with multiple monitors and hundreds of tabs and apps open, yet at the end of the day I'm more productive with vim and almost nothing else.

OMG, how clueless you are... Do you seriously think every computer user in the world does nothing else but write code, modify files and databases?.. Did you ever stop to think non-programmers use computers in ways you cannot even imagine? To do work you probably cannot even grasp?

Remember that the human brain can't actually multitask; we serial single task.

That does not change anything. Computer is a tool, it does not need to mimic human brain on every level.

If you think you need multiple things open at once, chances are you'd be better served with a higher level single task that abstracts them both away and gets what you need from each.

That's absurd...

Essentially, you're like a cripple in a wheelchair, who sees a marathon runner and thinks he's a fool, because "why would you use your legs when you have wheelchair?"

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RE[16]: iPhone
by woegjiub on Fri 11th Aug 2017 08:45 in reply to "RE[15]: iPhone"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

I still do not believe anyone else apart from yourself would call you "advanced user" or "good programmer". And I base this on the things you wrote here, nothing else.


Well, considering you've never seen or used any code I've written, I'm going to go ahead and ignore your opinion on that.

What do you use a GUI for? I guarantee the majority of those use cases can be replaced by well programmed tools, terminal interfaces, and web apps.

It's a little awkward that you don't understand programming computers to do things for you is infinitely more powerful than manually clicking around.

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