Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Sep 2017 19:30 UTC
Apple

Apple held its iPhone event today, but since the three major leaks got everything right - read our previous items on the leaks to get the full details - there's really not much to add here, other than the pricing for the new iPhones. The 'regular' iPhone 8 will be about €50 more expensive this year, so take that into account when planning your upgrade. The iPhone X (pronounced "ten" by Apple, "ex" by people with good taste), however, carries a very hefty pricetag, especially in Europe and the UK - the base 64GB model is $999 in the US, and a staggering €1159 in Europe (and an equally staggering £999 in the UK).

I think it's definitely a nice looking phone, and can certainly hold its own against other small-bezel phones from Samsung, LG, and others (especially others), but especially outside of the US, that's one hell of a price tag. Going over the magic €1000 mark feels like crossing a psychological threshold from high-end brand new smartphone territory into high-end brand new laptop territory, and that's a tough pill to swallow.

The additional problem here is that the iPhone 8 simply looks outdated compared to all the minimal bezel phones of this year, and certainly so next to the iPhone X in stores for the iOS users among us. I'm up for contract renewal, and since I'm the kind of person to switch platforms about once a year, I was definitely interested in switching to iOS again by buying the iPhone X. However, that €1159 price tag is way, way beyond the outer limit of my comfort zone.

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Boring
by darknexus on Tue 12th Sep 2017 19:41 UTC
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2008-07-15

I think this is the most bored I've ever been when watching an Apple event. Okay, the new watch gets stand-alone cellular (finally, though who knows what the data plan gouges are going to be), Apple TV gets even more HD (we knew that already), and the iPhone 8 is a further iteration on a design that has been mostly static since the first one. The iPhone X... hmm, I'm not sure. If the best they can really do with facial tracking is smiling cats, not so much. Don't get me wrong, I like cats, but I would have expected something better than this. Face ID looks somewhat interesting but only time will really tell how well it does or does not work, and what accessibility implications it may or may not have for those with disfigurements, etc. It is interesting that Apple chose to support the industry-standard QI for inductive charging; I refuse to call it wireless charging because there is still the same amount of wires involved and moving the wire does not wireless make. If and when Apple releases their AirPower charging mat, with the ability to charge more than one device at a time, then I'll call it wireless in the same way that wi-fi is wireless.
And with my constant use of the word "wire", my last point. Tim, buddy, you really need a good thesaurus. The Tim Cook drinking word this year was "magical."

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RE: Boring
by Troels on Tue 12th Sep 2017 20:07 in reply to "Boring"
Troels Member since:
2005-07-11

Hah, had almost forgotten about the TV and Watch, so yeah, lots of arm waving for making the Apple TV not be outdated. Not sure why i would want to pick that over a Chromecast Ultra though, I really like the way there is no device to control with the Chromecast, it just magically does its thing. Okay, it can't play games like the new Apple TV, but is there anyone who cares about games that doesn't already have a more powerful platform for that?

I really want to like the watch, more shiny gadgets = better, right? right!?

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RE[2]: Boring
by darknexus on Tue 12th Sep 2017 22:22 in reply to "RE: Boring"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Different use cases I suppose. If I had a TV, I'd prefer the Apple TV over the Chromecast because it can do its own thing without needing my phone or tablet to help it, and yet can accept help from another device in those instances when it does. With the Chromecast, I'd always be controlling it with another device, eating through another battery. Too, the Apple TV can accept Airplay lossless audio from any device which supports that, whereas the chromecast can only mirror from Chrome or stream apps Google has chosen to support. Just goes to show, competition is good.

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RE: Boring
by ilovebeer on Wed 13th Sep 2017 16:07 in reply to "Boring"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

I'm not sure your Qi vs. wifi comparison is all that good. Both provide a service that does not require physically connecting a device (via wire), and both only work when you're within range. If you don't have to plug a wire into your phone to charge it, it is being charged wirelessly. There's really no controversy here. Perhaps you meant to say you want over-the-air charging. But then don't we all.

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RE[2]: Boring
by zima on Wed 13th Sep 2017 17:19 in reply to "RE: Boring"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Additionally, Qi is "wired" in the same way Wifi is - you still need to have wires going to the access point... ;) (typically more of them for Wifi - Ethernet and power, whereas Qi carging matt only has power)

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RE[2]: Boring
by darknexus on Wed 13th Sep 2017 19:13 in reply to "RE: Boring"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Actually, my comparison is perfectly apt. Wi-fi internet: one bass station to multiple devices. It actually cuts down on the wires and you can move around. QI: one charging pad, one device at a time. There is still the same amount of wires at your desk. Moving it does not magically make it wireless. For the record, I doubt that completely wireless charging is even possible. There's always going to be a wire. I just absolutely hate bullshit marketing, and saying that inductive charging is wireless is precisely that.

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