Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 09:55 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

If you're a demanding computer user, sometimes your 13-inch Ultrabook laptop just won't quite cut it. For those looking for a little more computing power, HP's new Z8 workstation could be just the answer. The latest iteration of HP's desktop workstations packs in a pair of Intel Skylake-SP processors, topping out with twinned Xeon Platinum 8180 chips: 28 cores/56 threads and 38.5MB cache each running at 2.5-3.8GHz, along with support for up to 1.5TB RAM.

Next year, you'll be able to go higher still with the 8180M processors; same core count and speeds, but doubling the total memory capacity to 3TB, as long as you want to fill the machine's 24 RAM slots.

Those processors and memory can be combined with up to three Nvidia Quadro P6000 GPUs or AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100 parts if you prefer that team. The hefty desktop systems have four internal drive bays, two external (and a third external for an optical drive), and nine PCIe slots. Storage options include up to 4TB of PCIe-mounted SSD, and 48TB of spinning disks. A range of gigabit and 10 gigabit Ethernet adaptors are available; the machines also support 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.2. Thunderbolt 3 is available with an add-in card.

This is one hell of a beast of a machine, and something most of us will never have the pleasure to use. That being said - I've always been fascinated by these professional workstations, and the HP ones in particular. Current models are obviously way out of my price range, but older models - such as a model from the Z800 range - are more attainable.

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Uses?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 19th Sep 2017 14:49 UTC
Bill Shooter of Bul
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2006-07-14

I'm a bit confused at who uses these things. I used to be a workstation user, back before things like AWS or Google cloud existed. Its much cheaper for my usages to just throw jobs at the cloud and pay for time used than to pay up front for a super beefy machine.

I'm sure there are niche uses, just curious what they are.

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RE: Uses?
by kwan_e on Tue 19th Sep 2017 14:59 in reply to "Uses? "
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

I'm sure there are niche uses, just curious what they are.


From the article:

HP is aiming them at markets such as 3D engineering and modeling and 8K video production


If you want 3D engineering simulation modelling that is responsive in realtime, I doubt you'd want to go to the cloud.

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RE[2]: Uses?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 19th Sep 2017 22:45 in reply to "RE: Uses? "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Not sure why it needs to be real time, but I'm not an engineer that requires real time modeling.

But basically for someone who wants low latency, near real time high performance. Ok, I can understand that to a certain extent.

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RE: Uses?
by dnebdal on Tue 19th Sep 2017 18:06 in reply to "Uses? "
dnebdal Member since:
2008-08-27

I'm a bit confused at who uses these things. I used to be a workstation user, back before things like AWS or Google cloud existed. Its much cheaper for my usages to just throw jobs at the cloud and pay for time used than to pay up front for a super beefy machine.

I'm sure there are niche uses, just curious what they are.

I work at a (Norwegian) cancer research lab with a a genomics and data analysis focus. The hospital patient privacy people would struggle to remain civil if we started analyzing sequencing data on foreign cloud services ... not to mention that it's just more pleasant to do interactive visualization on a local machine.

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RE[2]: Uses?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 19th Sep 2017 22:50 in reply to "RE: Uses? "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Understand the interactive real time visualization, not sure I completely agree that there are privacy implications with running things on AWS/Google infrastructure.

I mean, you shouldn't have a lower standard of security measures, just because its not in the cloud. I'm sure its cheaper to bribe a janitor to physically access and obtain information for me, than it would be to bribe a Google/amazon employee. You know, if I wanted that data to build atomic supermen of un-common strength. Which I'm not even really sure I want. The upkeep on them alone would make the ROI tough to justify. Not to mention the bad press, if it leaked that I was the mastermind. Good PR people are tough to come by, and expensive.

Edited 2017-09-19 22:51 UTC

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RE: Uses?
by gan17 on Wed 20th Sep 2017 13:17 in reply to "Uses? "
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

I'm a bit confused at who uses these things

Look at it this way. Spec this thing to the brim and we'll finally be able to run Chrome and Firefox at teh same time!! ;)

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