Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 21:52 UTC
Apple

iOS 11 has been released, and if you have an iPhone or iPad, you should really update right now. It's a big release, and especially iPad users will get to enjoy an overhauled user experience on their tablets. If you're not convinced, be sure to read the only two reviews you need: the one by fervent and enthusiastic (his enthusiasm for the iPad is infectious, in a good way) iPad user Federico Viticci, and the Ars Technica review written by Andrew Cunningham.

I've been using the betas on my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9", and it truly transforms how you use the iPad, to the point where I can use mine comfortably for work (translating, posting OSNews stories - like this one - and so on). No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro, and the battery life of this machine is so good, it's probably illegal in 12 US states. Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want, like fidgeting with windows, or anxiously managing battery life because otherwise I won't get through a day, or manage applications. And trust me, there's no PC - not even my own €4000 monster PC - that is as fluid and responsive as this iPad Pro.

The iPad Pro with iOS 11 is the truest realisation yet of it just works.

I'm not going to claim this is for everyone, or that you should ritually sacrifice your ThinkPad and run to the Apple Store and get the iPad Pro. However, after a few months of use, there's no way I'm ever going back to a traditional laptop. That being said - my only complaint about the 2017 iPad Pro 12.9" is an odd one: it's not a mobile device.

I am a sit down behind my desk kind of person. I work and compute behind a desk, with a large display at eye height and a comfortable chair. The iPad Pro isn't suited for this kind of work, as it forces you to look down, which due to back problems I cannot do for longer periods of time. What I really want is a small iOS box I can hook up a display, keyboard, and mouse to. Apple already makes such a box - the Apple TV - so I know they can do it. Mouse and keyboard support is probably coming to iOS over the coming years, and with the Mac Mini languishing, it feels like they might be working on just such a box.

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.

I know stating iOS is a great general purpose computing platform tends to be controversial - I myself have been skeptical about this very thing for years - but iOS 11 and the iPad Pro have utterly convinced me. This is the platform I want for laptop and desktop computer use. Windows and macOS feel like the past now.

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yerverluvinunclebert
Member since:
2014-05-03

Well, I'm glad you're here to tell me that I'm wrong for finding the iPad Pro a perfectly fine general purpose platform,


Your quote again and not mine. I think it would be a perfect platform for a lot of people. Your comments are what I am responding to.

it's the future


only for certain users/tasks as demonstrated.

Windows and macOS feel like the past now.


er...no.

No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro.


Depends upon what you are doing!

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.


I'd easily pay £50 for such a machine. I'm using it now!

Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want


I have fought the good fight with IOS in previous versions to get it to do anything other than the bare basics. Perhaps I am a power user?

If IOS 11 finally manages to release its potential then great, it's about time! From your tone it is the be-all and end-all but it is not, IOS is merely catching up. Thank goodness for that, maybe we can have an adult experience with the os as it matures.

Perhaps, the next step would be to open the environment, allow industry standard binaries to operate so we can run our 32bit and 64bit applications without fear that the os will change so much in two years as to make them unusable.

I'll sell my iPad Pro right away, and go back to a clunky laptop with a maintenance intensive operating system with garbage battery life. Crisis averted. ;)


You are losing the plot Thom. What's up with you? You aren't normally like this. Addition of a smiley face isn't an argument-winning answer.

The desktop PC environment isn't for everyone but that's the point. I recognise that each device suits its user but IOS as a general purpose computing environment? No, it is nowhere near ready for that as other more mature environments already exist. IOS is merely showing its potential in this market, it is capable, it currently has a niche market that is aiming for a wider uptake, that's all. My ipad-using kids are growing up and they might have been growing with the os, that's the sort of potential market (except they aren't as my kid's ipads won't run IOS 11).

Oh yes, ...and when are you going to reply to all the other points where you were found out to be factually incorrect or close to insulting?

Edited for typos (I really should be using IOS)

Edited 2017-09-20 12:27 UTC

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woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

I think his original article would be more acceptable to you if you mentally add "for me" to most of those claims. It's how I read it.

It performs like a dream... To him
It's a superior alternative to a PC... To him

Your tools and workflows aren't yet available on that platform. That's fine. Just means that unlike a professional translator or writer, it's not for you (yet?)

Android is nearly there for me, and I'm a developer.
Let me run docker or minikube, and because I use vim and a command line environment alongside a web browser as my main tools, it would suffice. (I make mostly REST APIs, so the CLI ecosystem is the strongest, and I find it infinitely more powerful than what I consider clunky shit like visual studio)

Doesn't mean it would work for you.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I think his original article would be more acceptable to you if you mentally add "for me" to most of those claims. It's how I read it.

It performs like a dream... To him
It's a superior alternative to a PC... To him


Yup. Writing "...for me" after every single line is kind of dumb, though, which is why I very specifically stated this isn't for everyone.

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