Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 09:55 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

If you're a demanding computer user, sometimes your 13-inch Ultrabook laptop just won't quite cut it. For those looking for a little more computing power, HP's new Z8 workstation could be just the answer. The latest iteration of HP's desktop workstations packs in a pair of Intel Skylake-SP processors, topping out with twinned Xeon Platinum 8180 chips: 28 cores/56 threads and 38.5MB cache each running at 2.5-3.8GHz, along with support for up to 1.5TB RAM.

Next year, you'll be able to go higher still with the 8180M processors; same core count and speeds, but doubling the total memory capacity to 3TB, as long as you want to fill the machine's 24 RAM slots.

Those processors and memory can be combined with up to three Nvidia Quadro P6000 GPUs or AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100 parts if you prefer that team. The hefty desktop systems have four internal drive bays, two external (and a third external for an optical drive), and nine PCIe slots. Storage options include up to 4TB of PCIe-mounted SSD, and 48TB of spinning disks. A range of gigabit and 10 gigabit Ethernet adaptors are available; the machines also support 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.2. Thunderbolt 3 is available with an add-in card.

This is one hell of a beast of a machine, and something most of us will never have the pleasure to use. That being said - I've always been fascinated by these professional workstations, and the HP ones in particular. Current models are obviously way out of my price range, but older models - such as a model from the Z800 range - are more attainable.

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RE[10]: Uses?
by avgalen on Wed 20th Sep 2017 21:13 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: Uses? "
avgalen
Member since:
2010-09-23

Equifax's data wasn't on the webserver...

From what I understood there was (among other things like the unpatched apache thing) a webserver with the default admin/admin that gave access to a UI directly querying the database. That is a fundamental difference with a workstation that has no public facing connections open.

The intended role of a machine is irrelevant, if it has sensitive data, it must be protected with real security, not location or role based myths.

Of course

Does not compute. Must follow rule without question.
I said rule/policy/law. And yes, you have to follow those in a company/country. You can question them all you want but if you are not allowed to put data in the cloud that means you are not allowed!
Do not try to secure data. Policy will protect us.
Now you are just being silly and annoying. Not allowing data in the cloud can be part of a well thought out security policy while allowing data in (a foreign) cloud can be an actual criminal offense.

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RE[11]: Uses?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 21st Sep 2017 21:55 in reply to "RE[10]: Uses? "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I said rule/policy/law. And yes, you have to follow those in a company/country. You can question them all you want but if you are not allowed to put data in the cloud that means you are not allowed!


If its a policy, that can be changed and its know to be increasing costs, that should be challenged vigorously, If its a law, it should be lobbied against, if the costs are high enough. A rule/law/policy is not an absolute thing, what is more important is the real truth of matter. If it truly makes sense to keep data out of the cloud, great argue why that is. If you're just appealing to authority, that's just a failure of logic.

The idea that data is protected if its not in the US is kind of insane. That just means that it can't be accessed by warrant, and has to be accessed by NSA.

Whee?

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RE[12]: Uses?
by avgalen on Fri 22nd Sep 2017 11:33 in reply to "RE[11]: Uses? "
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

If its a policy, that can be changed and its know to be increasing costs, that should be challenged vigorously, If its a law, it should be lobbied against, if the costs are high enough. A rule/law/policy is not an absolute thing, what is more important is the real truth of matter.
Which is why I literally said "You can question them all you want". But until you get a rule/law/policy changed you have to obey it.

The idea that data is protected if its not in the US is kind of insane.
Where, anywhere in this thread, has anyone been arguing that? You are the one that built up that insane idea and then started to break it down. This is textbook strawman!
noun: strawman. 1. an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.


Of course the policy/rule/law that data should be kept inside the country doesn't make that data safe (that requires a lot more security)
However, allowing some data outside of the country MIGHT immediately make that data unsafe.
This is one of the big problems in security. You need to get everything right because the chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Now I see that you love discussing security, but the topic here was a powerful workstation so maybe you should continue your discussion in a better suited thread or another forum. And please keep your arguments relevant to what people said, no strawmanning!

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