Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 21:52 UTC
Apple

iOS 11 has been released, and if you have an iPhone or iPad, you should really update right now. It's a big release, and especially iPad users will get to enjoy an overhauled user experience on their tablets. If you're not convinced, be sure to read the only two reviews you need: the one by fervent and enthusiastic (his enthusiasm for the iPad is infectious, in a good way) iPad user Federico Viticci, and the Ars Technica review written by Andrew Cunningham.

I've been using the betas on my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9", and it truly transforms how you use the iPad, to the point where I can use mine comfortably for work (translating, posting OSNews stories - like this one - and so on). No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro, and the battery life of this machine is so good, it's probably illegal in 12 US states. Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want, like fidgeting with windows, or anxiously managing battery life because otherwise I won't get through a day, or manage applications. And trust me, there's no PC - not even my own €4000 monster PC - that is as fluid and responsive as this iPad Pro.

The iPad Pro with iOS 11 is the truest realisation yet of it just works.

I'm not going to claim this is for everyone, or that you should ritually sacrifice your ThinkPad and run to the Apple Store and get the iPad Pro. However, after a few months of use, there's no way I'm ever going back to a traditional laptop. That being said - my only complaint about the 2017 iPad Pro 12.9" is an odd one: it's not a mobile device.

I am a sit down behind my desk kind of person. I work and compute behind a desk, with a large display at eye height and a comfortable chair. The iPad Pro isn't suited for this kind of work, as it forces you to look down, which due to back problems I cannot do for longer periods of time. What I really want is a small iOS box I can hook up a display, keyboard, and mouse to. Apple already makes such a box - the Apple TV - so I know they can do it. Mouse and keyboard support is probably coming to iOS over the coming years, and with the Mac Mini languishing, it feels like they might be working on just such a box.

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.

I know stating iOS is a great general purpose computing platform tends to be controversial - I myself have been skeptical about this very thing for years - but iOS 11 and the iPad Pro have utterly convinced me. This is the platform I want for laptop and desktop computer use. Windows and macOS feel like the past now.

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RE[3]: Other OSes?
by zima on Fri 22nd Sep 2017 01:55 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Other OSes?"
zima
Member since:
2005-07-06

basically you had issues mostly with cheap hardware and not the OS...

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RE[4]: Other OSes?
by yerverluvinunclebert on Fri 22nd Sep 2017 08:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Other OSes?"
yerverluvinunclebert Member since:
2014-05-03

basically you had issues mostly with cheap hardware and not the OS...


Possibly, but I have the same spec. hardware running Android and it is fast, slick and usable. The Android o/s is designed for phone operation and it scales up to smaller tablets reasonably. Windows is just the wrong os for tablets and small devices and it does not down-scale. Andromeda is Microsoft's admission to this situation allowing a modular approach and the ability to build a Windows-alike o/s that is more suited to the abilities of the device, be it large or small.

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RE[5]: Other OSes?
by zima on Fri 22nd Sep 2017 13:42 in reply to "RE[4]: Other OSes?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

But Windows has shown it can scale down well, in the form of Windows Phone. Which reminds me of recent comment here: http://www.osnews.com/permalink?649106 from which I quote:

The only "modern," post-iOS mobile OS/device that I've used that was unambiguously faster & more responsive than webOS was Windows Phone 8 on a Lumia 520

...which seems to be the consensus regarding WP, slick & smooth (and worthy of note is that Lumia 520 is an entry-level device)

Perhaps the problems you had with your Windows tablet stem from, I quote you, "and full windows in a compact package" - full so with all the legacy & cruft ...so you should have known better than to buy a 1 GiB of RAM full Windows device in 2017 ;) (1 GiB was the norm on PCs more than a decade ago...)

As for Android beeing "fast, slick and usable" on low-powered devices - that's not an universal impression. This in turn reminded me one recent OSNews article: http://www.osnews.com/story/29924/Android_is_a_dead_end where Thom writes:

Android in its current form suffers from several key architectural problems - it's not nearly as resource-efficient as, say, iOS [... ]and despite hefty hardware, still suffers from the occasional performance problems, among other things - that Google clearly hasn't been able to solve.

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RE[4]: Other OSes?
by darknexus on Fri 22nd Sep 2017 13:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Other OSes?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Fortunately for him. Had he had a decent-spec tablet he would have discovered how bad Windows on a tablet really is. I have, at my desk, a Dell Latitude 7275 convertable. It has a nice core M processor (don't remember which one and am a bit too lazy to get it out and check), 8 gb ram, and a 256 gb SSD. Battery life is just as bad as described, though I put that down mostly to Dell's horrible battery choice (a 2-cell, seriously?). What isn't specific to this tablet is the absolutely horrible touch experience on Windows 10. The on-screen keyboard not coming up is only the beginning of the problems. With no apps really designed to be used via touch (including Microsoft's own), trying to use this thing as a tablet becomes an exercise in masochism. The icons are too small (this is a 12.9, same as my iPad Pro), the scroll gestures rarely work and never consistently, and forget about doing anything useful with drag and drop via multitouch because it isn't happening. Add to this the fact that you never really know what experience you'll get in tablet mode (sometimes it kicks in, sometimes not) and it's just not worth it. A few people have Windows tablets here, and you know what? They're always in laptop mode because Windows on a tablet is worse than useless. No wonder Windows RT sold horribly, if this is its successor.

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RE[5]: Other OSes?
by zima on Fri 22nd Sep 2017 13:48 in reply to "RE[4]: Other OSes?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh well ...should I believe the promises that it'll become better in the next version? ;) (because I'm thinking of getting some ~tablet with pen input for taking notes when/if I'll return to studying in a year, or two, or three; the convertible form factor is probably the most appealing to me, owing to good keyboards...)

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