Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 24th Sep 2017 00:09 UTC
Benchmarks

The "Bionic" part in the name of Apple's A11 Bionic chip isn't just marketing speak. It's the most powerful processor ever put in a mobile phone. We've put this chip to the test in both synthetic benchmarks and some real-world speed trials, and it obliterates every Android phone we tested.

As far as SoCs go, Apple is incredibly far ahead of Qualcomm and Samsung. These companies have some serious soul-searching to do.

I can't wait for AnandTech to dive into the A11 Bionic, so we can get some more details than just people comparing GeekBench scores.

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RE: Comment by PJBonoVox
by gan17 on Sun 24th Sep 2017 13:31 UTC in reply to "Comment by PJBonoVox"
gan17
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2008-06-03

I agree they're making good leaps, but remember that that this is a £700 phone. £700!

The two Samsung phones benchmarked against the iPhones are also similarly priced, or more. The Note 8 is supposedly around the US$1000 mark. Phone prices are getting ridiculous!

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RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by ggeldenhuys on Sun 24th Sep 2017 15:30 in reply to "RE: Comment by PJBonoVox"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

Phone prices are getting ridiculous!

I couldn't agree more! It is absolutely crazy - they have entered or surpassed the laptop pricing. I can do so much more (useful things) on a laptop, and normally not bound to only one OS vendor that will artificially force me to upgrade or brand my hardware as obsolete in a year's time.

I'm still using a Google Nexus 4 which has received every Android update since it's release in 2012 (until this year) and my phone still runs every app under the sun just fine. All that for a fraction of what a Apple or Samsung phone costs.

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RE[3]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by leech on Sun 24th Sep 2017 16:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

On the bright side of things, I can actually use my Note 8 as a desktop system with the Dex Station (though for the love of god, why can't I use Firefox? It gives me an error about 'being made for phone touch screens)

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RE[3]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by agildehaus on Sun 24th Sep 2017 18:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox"
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2005-06-29

Nexus 4 started out on Jelly Bean and received KitKat and Lollipop (5.0-5.1). All others are unofficial ports that no regular user should or could install on their phone.

Edited 2017-09-24 18:49 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by jigzat on Sun 24th Sep 2017 22:39 in reply to "RE: Comment by PJBonoVox"
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2008-10-30

Ongoing monetary inflation, trust me, is going to get worst. Also bleeding edge technology is expensive and early adopters drive the price down. Same thing happened with corning glass, memory and other technologies pushed by Apple (and others).

On a side note my iPhone 5s died (my fault) and right now I cannot afford a new iPhone so I had to buy a cheap Xperia in the mean time.

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RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by Soulbender on Mon 25th Sep 2017 11:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by PJBonoVox"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Phone prices are getting ridiculous!


My current Android phone (less than a year old) cost me ~$50. My wife's new Android cost around ~70.
These aren't monster phones but more than enough for what we use them for (phone, web, youtube, messaging etc).

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RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by leos on Mon 25th Sep 2017 17:43 in reply to "RE: Comment by PJBonoVox"
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2005-09-21

"I agree they're making good leaps, but remember that that this is a £700 phone. £700!

The two Samsung phones benchmarked against the iPhones are also similarly priced, or more. The Note 8 is supposedly around the US$1000 mark. Phone prices are getting ridiculous!
"

Nonsense. I can walk into Walmart and get a perfectly good Android phone for $100 (CAD) https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/acer-liquid-zest-5-3g-smartphone/600019...
Or even less on Amazon. If you want the highest of the high end you will pay for it, but smartphone technology is cheaper than ever. My current iPhone 5S I bought for $80 used. Will probably replace with an SE soon.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, I think there is a lot of value in getting an old iphone that still gets security updates. Android not as much, if you care about other people reading your messages, data on the device, or browsing habits.

Most people don't, and the threat for most people is theoretical, so I get why they don't really care. They will care if malware becomes more of an issue on phones. The recent bluetooth issue sounds pretty bad. But again, you'd need to care about your data/privacy in the first place.

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RE[3]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by SaschaW on Mon 25th Sep 2017 19:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox"
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2007-07-19

I think he was talking about high-end phones

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RE[2]: Comment by PJBonoVox
by PJBonoVox on Fri 29th Sep 2017 00:16 in reply to "RE: Comment by PJBonoVox"
PJBonoVox Member since:
2006-08-14

Yeah, I hear ya dude. The phones that it was benchmarked against would never be anywhere NEAR my 'must buy' list.

I'm really comparing it to some of the offerings from Xiaomi, ZTE, Lenovo and so on. I'd never spend $900+ on a phone, but if I did, I'd choose the iPhone out of the options in that price range.

Absolutely nothing against Apple, but they're just out of my bracket and not aimed at me.

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