Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 21:52 UTC

iOS 11 has been released, and if you have an iPhone or iPad, you should really update right now. It's a big release, and especially iPad users will get to enjoy an overhauled user experience on their tablets. If you're not convinced, be sure to read the only two reviews you need: the one by fervent and enthusiastic (his enthusiasm for the iPad is infectious, in a good way) iPad user Federico Viticci, and the Ars Technica review written by Andrew Cunningham.

I've been using the betas on my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9", and it truly transforms how you use the iPad, to the point where I can use mine comfortably for work (translating, posting OSNews stories - like this one - and so on). No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro, and the battery life of this machine is so good, it's probably illegal in 12 US states. Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want, like fidgeting with windows, or anxiously managing battery life because otherwise I won't get through a day, or manage applications. And trust me, there's no PC - not even my own €4000 monster PC - that is as fluid and responsive as this iPad Pro.

The iPad Pro with iOS 11 is the truest realisation yet of it just works.

I'm not going to claim this is for everyone, or that you should ritually sacrifice your ThinkPad and run to the Apple Store and get the iPad Pro. However, after a few months of use, there's no way I'm ever going back to a traditional laptop. That being said - my only complaint about the 2017 iPad Pro 12.9" is an odd one: it's not a mobile device.

I am a sit down behind my desk kind of person. I work and compute behind a desk, with a large display at eye height and a comfortable chair. The iPad Pro isn't suited for this kind of work, as it forces you to look down, which due to back problems I cannot do for longer periods of time. What I really want is a small iOS box I can hook up a display, keyboard, and mouse to. Apple already makes such a box - the Apple TV - so I know they can do it. Mouse and keyboard support is probably coming to iOS over the coming years, and with the Mac Mini languishing, it feels like they might be working on just such a box.

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.

I know stating iOS is a great general purpose computing platform tends to be controversial - I myself have been skeptical about this very thing for years - but iOS 11 and the iPad Pro have utterly convinced me. This is the platform I want for laptop and desktop computer use. Windows and macOS feel like the past now.

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RE[7]: Other OSes?
by zima on Mon 25th Sep 2017 12:07 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Other OSes?"
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Windows phone is very good on the Lumia 520 but that isn't 'big' Windows as we know it. No access to desktop. Restricted to a big-button GUI. Unable to run real Windows programs (due to power and space and ability I wouldn't even try). As a pure phone it was OK but there was almost no pretence to being a 'real' computer. It was simply a phone and it was used as such to make calls, nothing else. In that sense only Windows phone excelled as a phone interface. I was really impressed with it. My wife (non computer user loved it). However the Lumia's version of windows seems to have recently been abandoned...

That's what scaling down means, chopping off the unneeded parts / legacy / cruft...

No, because we have several Androids/ipads at equal or lower specs. that run perfectly well.

But they don't have to deal with all the "legacy & cruft"... do you even read what I wrote?

>As for Android being "fast, slick and usable" on low-powered devices - that's not an universal impression. T

Of course it isn't suited to every user but the LG devices we use as current stock of phones are superbly slick devices in all senses. Real life experience here.

>Android in its current form suffers from several key architectural problems

Agreed - That is apparent if you know real oses and what they can do/how they do it.

So decide, which one is it?

However, from the consumer point of view, you open the box and it works! Same as Apple IOS, it works. Android is SO much cheaper though. I use an LG3 & 5 and the thing flies so much faster and is so much more open than my daughter's iphone 6. You can install more or less anything and it functions, so impressed by both.

In latest news piece here there are several people disagreeing with "flies so much faster"...

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