Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 24th Sep 2017 00:09 UTC
Benchmarks

The "Bionic" part in the name of Apple's A11 Bionic chip isn't just marketing speak. It's the most powerful processor ever put in a mobile phone. We've put this chip to the test in both synthetic benchmarks and some real-world speed trials, and it obliterates every Android phone we tested.

As far as SoCs go, Apple is incredibly far ahead of Qualcomm and Samsung. These companies have some serious soul-searching to do.

I can't wait for AnandTech to dive into the A11 Bionic, so we can get some more details than just people comparing GeekBench scores.

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RE[3]: Just to complain...
by Fergy on Mon 25th Sep 2017 17:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Just to complain... "
Fergy
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2006-04-10

Ok here is your insight

... can it make phone calls?

You mean is it optimized for phonecalls? No, it is a smartphone.

I understand the desire for Phastest Phone Epher!!, but what is the actual benefit for the phone and the user?

A faster chip can go to sleep faster and use less energy. A faster phone can do more than a slower phone so it has more potential value for the customer

Do we need a faster facebook or twitter? Will push notifications be faster?

It makes it possible for facebook to provide more features.

It's certainly going to drain the battery faster, unless it spends most of the time idling at a speed easily matched by an iPhone 3.

Just look at the benchmarks. Most newer phones use less energy to do the same as older models.

I just thought you already knew this...

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RE[4]: Just to complain...
by grat on Mon 25th Sep 2017 19:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Just to complain... "
grat Member since:
2006-02-02


A faster chip can go to sleep faster and use less energy. A faster phone can do more than a slower phone so it has more potential value for the customer

I suppose the first half makes sense, but saying a faster phone can do less more often seems a bit odd. It also supports my contention that to save power, the phone will be idling much of the time.

It makes it possible for facebook to provide more features.

Most of those features are going to be on the cloud, not the phone.

Just look at the benchmarks. Most newer phones use less energy to do the same as older models.

I just thought you already knew this...

Newer chip layouts, with smaller traces, can indeed reduce power consumption and increase speed. On the other hand, the new Ryzen Threadripper chips can draw up to 180W TDP, so newer technology does not guarantee efficiency.

As long as the laws of thermodynamics are in play, typically, more transistors and more circuits means more energy consumed. You can gain most of that back with good thermal characteristics, improved die design, and smaller traces-- but it's still diminishing returns.

Now, if you REALLY want efficiency, use dedicated hardware that's designed to process data as efficiently as possible. As I mention elsewhere, a Raspberry Pi can decode 1080P because it has a dedicated decoder chip-- without that chip, the Pi would be hard pressed to decode *any* reasonable quality video stream, because it's much, much harder to do such things on a general purpose CPU than it is on a hardware based decoder.

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