Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Sep 2017 10:08 UTC
Apple

Consistency is Apple's main motivation given for switching the results from Microsoft's Bing to Google in these cases. Safari on Mac and iOS already currently use Google search as the default provider, thanks to a deal worth billions to Apple (and Google) over the last decade. This change will now mirror those results when Siri, the iOS Search bar or Spotlight is used.

"Switching to Google as the web search provider for Siri, Search within iOS and Spotlight on Mac will allow these services to have a consistent web search experience with the default in Safari," reads an Apple statement sent this morning. "We have strong relationships with Google and Microsoft and remain committed to delivering the best user experience possible."

Interesting move. The only logical move, of course - Bing is terrible - but still interesting if you look at the relationship between Apple and Google.

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Comment by raom
by raom on Tue 26th Sep 2017 16:20 UTC
raom
Member since:
2016-06-26

Unless you're doing illegal shit, you shouldn't care whether a search engine tracks you or not. Google is not going to divulge your embarassing pr0n searches.

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RE: Comment by raom
by Morgan on Tue 26th Sep 2017 17:58 in reply to "Comment by raom"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

For me it has nothing to do with "doing illegal shit", I prefer not to have my searches logged just as I prefer not to live in a house with glass walls and no curtains. Privacy is rarely about legal vs illegal activity, it's about a feeling of owning one's own information and controlling access to it. Why demonize the natural desire for privacy by framing it as presumed guilt?

If you want to know more about me, ask me, don't follow me everywhere I go and log everything I do. If someone did that in the physical world, they would be arrested for stalking, why should it be any different online?

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RE[2]: Comment by raom
by binary0x01 on Wed 27th Sep 2017 19:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by raom"
binary0x01 Member since:
2014-03-25

That's exactly my view; people are giving up their freedoms under the guise of righteousness stemming from this need to conform and see eye to eye with everyone else, along with assuming people that do not conform are involved in illicit activities by default and are therefore guilty until proven innocent... which is completely backwards.

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RE[2]: Comment by raom
by raom on Thu 28th Sep 2017 04:04 in reply to "RE: Comment by raom"
raom Member since:
2016-06-26

" I prefer not to have my searches logged just as I prefer not to live in a house with glass walls and no curtains"

If you lived in a house with glass walls anyone who sees you can easily and permanently identify you as an individual and link your actions to you. To google, you are merely a tiny dot in their statistics, statistics they use to generate advertisement money.

Certainly, if the data fell onto unscrupulous hands they could also identify you, and I'm sure google has succumbed to government pressure to use their data, but in those cases, again, if you've not done anything seriously illegal on the internet, you'd be dismissed and continue to be a statistic. Installation of dictatorial government in the US is extremely unlikely with the amount of guns the population has.

Sure, in a perfect world, full privacy on the internet would be easily achievable. I should've added " you shouldn't care enough about user tracking on a search engine to use a much inferior alternative" to my original comment, because I do care, since it bothers me a bit.

I stand by my opinion that, unless you're doing something illegal, or are paranoid, you shouldn't ditch google for something with much inferior results like DuckDuckGo.

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RE[2]: Comment by raom
by zima on Sat 30th Sep 2017 20:19 in reply to "RE: Comment by raom"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Your searches, or even browsing history, are quite possibly still logged by some secret NSA programme or the like ;)

I like google logging, I can see what's logged myself; I don't feel like it infringes my privacy; I own and control this info.

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RE: Comment by raom
by Megol on Wed 27th Sep 2017 09:55 in reply to "Comment by raom"
Megol Member since:
2011-04-11

Unless you're doing illegal shit, you shouldn't care whether a search engine tracks you or not. Google is not going to divulge your embarassing pr0n searches.


Maybe not but some of us don't like being targeted and tracked. Some other realized the dangers it opens up to - oppressive regimes would love to get dirt on everyone, hackers don't need governmental support to use private information to ruin lives.

In most cases this tracking doesn't give us users any advantage. In theory it can improve what the search engine (or other services using tracking) presents for a certain search. In practice the effect is minimal or even in the noise - there have been research about this so not just my opinion.

TL;DR it's generally useless, the company needn't divulge anything willingly for it to be dangerous.

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RE[2]: Comment by raom
by zima on Sat 30th Sep 2017 20:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by raom"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

In most cases this tracking doesn't give us users any advantage.

I like being able to search for what I read in the past...

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RE: Comment by raom
by bert64 on Wed 27th Sep 2017 13:42 in reply to "Comment by raom"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

Just like Equifax isn't going to divulge your personal information...

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