Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Oct 2017 22:37 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

A couple years ago, Lenovo announced its plans to build a "retro" ThinkPad that would resurrect design elements of ThinkPads past as an homage to the brand's long history.

That ThinkPad is now real. Check out the ThinkPad 25, sold to commemorate 25 years of ThinkPads.

I'm just going to leave this here for you lovely ThinkPad people. This isn't for me, but I'm not here to ruin your party.

Do clean up after yourselves.

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RE[2]: Time to contemplate
by avgalen on Fri 6th Oct 2017 12:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Time to contemplate"
avgalen
Member since:
2010-09-23

Despite huge leaps in processing power and communication speeds, the overall web browser experience does not feel that much faster than it was with a dial-up modem

We now have 20 tabs of Full-HD content open that contain lots of images, fonts and video and we keep that open 24/7.
We used to have 1 or 2 browser windows open and waited for the text on the page to load before we slowly saw tables/frames and later images progressively load.

We now watch 4K youtube content without any buffering for an hour on average per day while we used to watch no video or at the very most a 30 seconds postage-stamp

We now download the latest Linux distribution in a Full-DVD-ISO in minutes while we used to not even try at home but instead went to the university and let a machine run all day long, hoping that no admin would notice that you were hogging all the bandwidth (sorry RedHat 5.2)

We used to run all our software locally and cache networked data for performance, now we run most software in the cloud and sync our entire image and video-collection to Cloud-Services

We used to preannounce to others that we would go online between 7:15 and 7:30 and then use some BBS to chat, now we send group-video instantly over WhatsApp and others

We used to buy cassettes and cd's, now we stream music on our phones

We used to have physical maps, now we have online phones with navigation and traphic info

I don't know what kind of dial-up you remember, but the world is a vastly different place now

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RE[3]: Time to contemplate
by tylerdurden on Fri 6th Oct 2017 14:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Time to contemplate"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

It's always the same; some of old farts who don't really understand/grasp how exponential computing power growth works, bitching how "something went wrong."

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RE[4]: Time to contemplate
by No it isnt on Fri 6th Oct 2017 15:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Time to contemplate"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

They just don't remember. Software used to be terrible.

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ThomasFuhringer Member since:
2007-01-25

I would so much appreciate if this clever young gun could enlighten me how exponential computing power works. And while you are at it, maybe also explain what kind of point you are making with this comment.

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RE[4]: Time to contemplate
by BlueofRainbow on Fri 6th Oct 2017 20:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Time to contemplate"
BlueofRainbow Member since:
2009-01-06

I guess that would be the main reason my comment ended up with a score of 0 (as of this writing).

Well - I was merely putting an emphasis on the responsiveness of the application/system to user inputs.

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RE[3]: Time to contemplate
by Morgan on Fri 6th Oct 2017 15:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Time to contemplate"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

We used to preannounce to others that we would go online between 7:15 and 7:30 and then use some BBS to chat


Man, those were the days! I spent way too much time on dial-up BBS and CompuServe chat rooms back in the mid 90s. My favorite places to go were a BBS for custom DOOM maps (barely playable on my first "real" computer), and the Star Trek Voyager RPG in the CompuServe chat rooms (I played as the holographic doctor, the only character I liked from that show).

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ThomasFuhringer Member since:
2007-01-25

And if I do not have all that open, the browser experience is still sluggish.

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RE[4]: Time to contemplate
by cb88 on Fri 6th Oct 2017 17:24 in reply to "RE[3]: Time to contemplate"
cb88 Member since:
2009-04-23

Firefox 57 actually is a lot better... its noticeably faster on my x130e which only has 2 1.6Ghz old AMD cores... so its pretty wimpy. And the UI has been modestly improved.

Edited 2017-10-06 17:31 UTC

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RE[3]: Time to contemplate
by zima on Sat 7th Oct 2017 17:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Time to contemplate"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't know what kind of dial-up you remember, but the world is a vastly different place now

"Old times were better" is one of more popular cognitive biases...

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RE[3]: Time to contemplate
by Darak on Sun 8th Oct 2017 09:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Time to contemplate"
Darak Member since:
2009-10-16

We used to run all our software locally and cache networked data for performance, now we run most software in the cloud and sync our entire image and video-collection to Cloud-Services


Well, if you really do that, you probably have small image and video collections and are fine with pretty low quality software. We're not there yet, and I'm not convinced I'd want to go there in any case, for a lot of reasons.

Not every complain is about old people yelling to clouds. There are a lot of valid points about good things we are losing in the name of convenience.

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RE[4]: Time to contemplate
by avgalen on Sun 8th Oct 2017 12:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Time to contemplate"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

Well, if you really do that, you probably have small image and video collections and are fine with pretty low quality software. We're not there yet, and I'm not convinced I'd want to go there in any case, for a lot of reasons.

My first harddisk was 20 MB and contained literally none of my own images and no videos at all. Currently I have about 50 GB of my own images and videos which I would call a substantial but not extraordinary amount. I have hardly any other videos on my machine anymore because I just stream those whenever I want to watch them. This allows me access to a much bigger range of content for a much lower price then I spend on external disks in the past. It also means I don't have to do any organizing which gives me more time to watch those streams with my wife and/or children.

Not every complain is about old people yelling to clouds. There are a lot of valid points about good things we are losing in the name of convenience.

When I was travelling for 1.5 year I used a small netbook with a local audio/video collection. I still install Windows/Office/SQL/VS from local ISO's and we run WSUS and similar tools at our company. Of course have local copies is sometimes just more convenient and faster but it is also more problematic to keep things updated and backup-ed that way. That is why I use services like ninite.com to install the majority of my software now. We also stopped hosting most of our services ourselves because other companies do it better and cheaper so I can spend my time on other things.

I haven't noticed any good things we have lost in the name of convenience, but I do see some things that we are losing indeed. However I have always found that in those cases there is another company that continued to offer "the good thing" so I can switch over to them if that good thing is worth more than the convenience that the other company offers.

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