Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Oct 2017 22:37 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

A couple years ago, Lenovo announced its plans to build a "retro" ThinkPad that would resurrect design elements of ThinkPads past as an homage to the brand's long history.

That ThinkPad is now real. Check out the ThinkPad 25, sold to commemorate 25 years of ThinkPads.

I'm just going to leave this here for you lovely ThinkPad people. This isn't for me, but I'm not here to ruin your party.

Do clean up after yourselves.

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RE[5]: Time to contemplate
by tylerdurden on Fri 6th Oct 2017 19:08 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Time to contemplate"
tylerdurden
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2009-03-17

Here's a quick overview with some pictures:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2015/04/14/10-ima...

The point is that you can do a hell of a lot more with a modern thinkpad, than with an old one. And the software has to do a hell of a lot more things than during windows 3 times. There's a lot of stuff going behind the scenes in the SW/HW combinations of modern systems to enable use cases that were a pipe dream 25 years ago.

Edited 2017-10-06 19:11 UTC

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RE[6]: Time to contemplate
by KKK. on Fri 6th Oct 2017 20:28 in reply to "RE[5]: Time to contemplate"
KKK. Member since:
2017-09-29

I used to use Windows 98 on a daily basis, and I still fail to see your point. In essence, there's nothing fundamentally different between Windows 98 and Windows 10 if you compare the end result. Those "many things behind the scenes" are (very) bad things. They are there because of laziness (and stupidity) of modern developers. Layers, upon layers, upon layers of abstraction, higher and higher level programming languages, so that "developers" can tell computer what they want in simple words and/or put a "program" together from LEGO-like pieces instead of doing the real work and understanding how hardware works and how to utilise it properly.

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RE[7]: Time to contemplate
by tylerdurden on Sat 7th Oct 2017 00:27 in reply to "RE[6]: Time to contemplate"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

It's the irony of things: it takes a tremendous amount of resources to simplify the operation of a complex system, like a modern computer, to the point that a luddite like you can manage it.

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RE[6]: Time to contemplate
by KKK. on Fri 6th Oct 2017 20:31 in reply to "RE[5]: Time to contemplate"
KKK. Member since:
2017-09-29

You know what? Please go ahead and explain me why does a simple chat client needs more than 200MB of RAM and a full-blown, almost OS-like browser engine behind it? If in the end, it does no more than an IRC client who works perfectly fine with just few MB of RAM. I would really like to know, enlighten me...

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RE[7]: Time to contemplate
by avgalen on Sun 8th Oct 2017 09:53 in reply to "RE[6]: Time to contemplate"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

Simple chat clients still only require a few MB of RAM or even less. Just take "net send" as an example which makes IRC look bloated ;)

But most people aren't using those. They are using chat clients that can do video-calling, share desktop programs, transfer files, send animated emoticons, etc.

I also remember Windows 98 and IRC-Clients crashing or losing connections several times in 1 evening and needing constant restarts for "simple things" like a resolution change

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