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Some years ago, already working in 'active transport', and seeking to deepen my understanding around urban design, I took the opportunity to take a family holiday for a week in the Netherlands. Among many many reactions to the experience, one big one I experienced was simply surprise that nobody had told me about most of the amazing things I'd see.

I've been meaning simply to write a list of these amazing things for years now. Unfortunately I'm not all that sure that there is any way to convey the 'amazingness' to those who haven't visited.

The Netherlands is one of the most - if not the most - densely populated western countries, which forced urban planners to get creative. Growing up and living in The Netherlands it's easy to take for granted just how good we are at traffic and urban design. That is, until you take a trip abroad to pretty much any other country - even our beloved neighbours like Germany or Belgium - and realise just how terrible everyone else is at properly segmenting and protecting cyclists and pedestrians, even in densely populated and tightly packed cities.

Urban design is a fascinating subject, and once you start paying attention to it here in The Netherlands, you'll discover an endless array of affordances to protect cyclists, pedestrians, and cars (yes!), while also creating neighbourhoods that usually have only one entry/exit point for cars so they can't be used for through traffic, all designed with the goal of corralling cars away from where people actually live.

I often wonder - will this make The Netherlands a haven for self-driving cars, or a hell?

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Comment by p13.
by p13. on Sun 15th Oct 2017 06:12 UTC
p13.
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2005-07-10

As a Belgian, i can say there is truth to this. Their traffic management is top notch. A good example of this is the "green wave" system, where all traffic lights will always be green if you drive the correct speed, thus rewarding you, the driver, so you have an incentive to stick to the speed limit, all the while improving the flow of traffic and increasing safety.

However ... the residential areas in .nl are friggin WEIRD. One entry, one exit, super narrow everywhere ... makes me think what if there's a fire? What if they need to evacuate? Doesn't really do anything for safety ... You could still drive like an idiot ...

But yes ... The Dutch are practical, pragmatic, down to earth people with a lot of common sense. They have a no-nonsense approach to a lot of things.

I like to spend time in .nl
It's just a nice place to be.
It's safe, clean and well organized.

Now if only they weren't so goddamn loud ... :-D

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RE: Comment by p13.
by Lennie on Mon 16th Oct 2017 19:20 in reply to "Comment by p13."
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I like to spend time in .nl
It's just a nice place to be.
It's safe, clean and well organized.

Now if only they weren't so goddamn loud ... :-D


I kind of expected for you to write it like this:

It's just a nice place to .be

Ohh well. :-)

And thanks for the compliments, I think ?

OK, I'm just going to ask: could you maybe give an example of the Dutch being loud, I'd love to know what you mean with that.

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RE[2]: Comment by p13.
by p13. on Mon 16th Oct 2017 19:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by p13."
p13. Member since:
2005-07-10

Hi,

Yes, they most certainly are compliments?

What do i mean by saying the Dutch are loud? Well ... they are loud ;)
Make a lot of noise, not very soft spoken, etc.

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