Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Oct 2017 10:47 UTC

All of the new design changes to Windows 10 are demonstrated in a new video from Microsoft. It’s a good showcase of how subtle the changes are, but it doesn’t tease much for the future. Microsoft’s Fluent Design System is designed to be the true successor to Microsoft's Metro design, and will appear across apps and services on Windows, iOS, and Android. Microsoft is focusing on light, depth, motion, material, and scale for its Fluent Design, with animations that make the design feel like it's moving during interactions in Windows.

Like Metro applications before them, these Fluent applications look really nice, but it's all for naught. Microsoft showed off its redesigned Outlook application for Windows (and macOS), and guess what? It's a Win32 application.

If not even Microsoft itself is interested in making Metro/Fluent applications, why should anyone else?

Microsoft's approach to Metro/Fluent has been baffling from day one, and it doesn't seem like anything's changing any time soon. They made really great Metro Office applications, but then proceed to hide them from the Windows Store behind the "mobile" tag, and artificially cripple them by not allowing you to open more than one document per Office application.

Even when Microsoft does make great Metro/Fluent applications, they artificially cripple them.

I have no idea what Microsoft is doing, and I don't blame developers for giving them the finger. They are telling an unreliable, unfocused, unclear, and chaotic developer story, and any developer worth her salt wouldn't touch the Windows Store/Metro/Fluent with a ten-foot pole.

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RE[2]: Comment by x86_x64
by ssokolow on Mon 16th Oct 2017 16:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by x86_x64"
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The problem is on your side. Approximately 50% of the human population are women. Deal with it.

...and 50% of the population are male.

I have to agree that concocting an "Abstract/Generic She" feels strange and artificial when Singular They has been around for something on the order of 500 years.

(It coexisted with gender-neutral use of He until grammarians in the 19th and early 20th century made a concerted push to get everyone standardizing on gender-neutral use of "he".)

"Any programmer worth their salt" is perfectly good and the only way it's inferior to Abstract/Generic She is that using Singular They doesn't give us guys the chance to experience some measure of the unease women must have felt with gender-neutral "he".

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RE[3]: Comment by x86_x64
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 16th Oct 2017 17:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by x86_x64"
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None of you would've complained had I used "he".


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RE[4]: Comment by x86_x64
by ssokolow on Mon 16th Oct 2017 20:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by x86_x64"
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None of you would've complained had I used "he".


Only because I'd have come across needlessly sounding like a jerk. While I don't mention it, I usually notice and I always use Singular They in what I say and write.

(Though I'm almost certainly an anomaly, given that I'm a language nerd with a side interest in gender's relationship to society and psychology.)

Edited 2017-10-16 21:01 UTC

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by x86_x64 on Tue 17th Oct 2017 06:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by x86_x64"
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by cmost on Wed 18th Oct 2017 10:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by x86_x64"
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Well, with all of the politically correct snowflakes out there, you can't simply write anything anymore. You have to scour your text to ensure gender neutrality and to make sure you didn't use any "triggers" that will cause the snowflakes to go running for their safe spaces.

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