Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Dec 2017 20:29 UTC
ReactOS

ReactOS 0.4.7 has been released, and it contains a ton of fixes, improvements, and new features. Judging by the screenshots, ReactOS 0.4.7 can run Opera, Firefox, and Mozilla all at once, which is good news for those among us who want to use ReactOS on a more daily basis. There's also a new application manager which, as the name implies, makes it easier to install and uninstall applications, similar to how package managers on Linux work. On a lower level, ReactOS can now deal with Ext2, Ext3, Ext4, BtrFS, ReiserFS, FFS, and NFS partitions.

There's more, so head on over to the announcement page.

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Still bluescreens quickly
by yahya on Thu 7th Dec 2017 13:58 UTC
yahya
Member since:
2007-03-29

I just tried it out in virtualbox, didn't even try real hardware. Installed VBox guest extensions. Installed Firefox and VLC from the app manager. Tried installing LibreOffice from the app manager. ROS bluescreens in the middle of the installation and after that bluescreens immediately during boot, regardless if regular or safe mode. That's pretty much identical to what I saw in the previous versions. I suppose there has been progress under the hood, but as an end user, I don't get to see it, when the system is still unstable as hell.

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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
by bert64 on Thu 7th Dec 2017 16:07 in reply to "Still bluescreens quickly"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

The goal is to make a clone of windows, if it's crashing regularly then it seems they're doing a good job!

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yahya Member since:
2007-03-29

Honestly, crashes have become quite rare for me in recent Windows versions, compared to Win 2000, XP and 2003. I wish ReactOS would follow the example.

I see more instabilities in Linux these days. Admittedly I use Linux most of the time, so that skews the result.

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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
by gedmurphy on Thu 7th Dec 2017 17:18 in reply to "Still bluescreens quickly"
gedmurphy Member since:
2005-12-23

Any chance you could open a ticket and unload the crash dump to the reactos jira page?
https://jira.reactos.org

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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
by ebasconp on Thu 7th Dec 2017 17:21 in reply to "Still bluescreens quickly"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

I suppose there has been progress under the hood, but as an end user, I don't get to see it, when the system is still unstable as hell.


In the home page of their site they say it is still in Alpha, so you should not expect to have it working perfectly.

Probably, they fixed a lot of problems and crashes, but that does not mean the software reached some high stability level yet.

Anyway, nobody can deny it is a beautiful piece of engineering right there ;)

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, I'm not awarding beauty awards to crashing operating systems. Regardless of how log its been in development or how much not crashing they're doing compared to the previous release.

Beauty awards:
BeOS, Haiku, Amiga, SkyOS, *BSD, Gnu/Linux, Mac OS, ios, Planet 9, OS/2, Risc OS, GeOS, Minux, WebOS, Palm OS, symbian

Those are beautiful pieces of engineering rendered as operating systems.

React doesn't make that cut in my book.

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yahya Member since:
2007-03-29

"I suppose there has been progress under the hood, but as an end user, I don't get to see it, when the system is still unstable as hell.


In the home page of their site they say it is still in Alpha, so you should not expect to have it working perfectly.

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I know, I know, as I have been following ReactOS development since version 0.0.1. I just feel that after, depending how you calculate, 15 or 20 years, it would be nice if it would emerge from alpha and become a bit more stable. And no I don't expect it to work perfectly, but still I don't expect it to crash on the first occasion either. When Linux was of the same age ReactOS is today, it was far from perfect, but it was incredibly stable and mature.


Probably, they fixed a lot of problems and crashes, but that does not mean the software reached some high stability level yet.


If it crashes all the time, that's the precise opposite of "stable" I would say.

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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
by cb88 on Fri 8th Dec 2017 14:03 in reply to "Still bluescreens quickly"
cb88 Member since:
2009-04-23

I suggest you try with a SCSI disk as the system disk instead of SATA (this works better even with real windows often enough as SCSI is simpler to emulate). Use the BusLogic device instead of LsiLogic.

Install the guest extensions from safe mode get to it with F8 during the bootloader.

Limit your vram > somewhere around 18-24Mb doesn't work and crashes. Don't Enable 2D/3d acceleration.

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