Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 26th Nov 2005 17:02 UTC, submitted by Megatux
Gnome "I followed the debate about a successor for the C/C++ combination as the primary language for developing the GNOME core desktop platform very closely last month. There has been discussion about a number of options. What I would like to do on this page is give an overview how a probably less well-known language might be a viable compromise as a C/C++ successor. This language is called Eiffel and exists for over a decade. Eiffel takes the principle of Object-Oriented programming to its extremes and, as a consequence, is a very easy to learn language."
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RE: My 2 cents on this long thread
by on Sun 27th Nov 2005 06:10 UTC in reply to "My 2 cents on this long thread"

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First, some people think that somehow "open source developers" are any different from "commercial developers"

Yeah. They are. You wanna know how? If I hire you I say: this project uses LispWorks, or FranzLisp, or EiffelStudio, or Cincom Smalltalk. Or for that matter, Eclipse. Whatever.

But I get to order you to do it. I don't get to listen to stupid arguments about C or C++, and you don't get to write stupid bugs because you left a dangling pointer because you have a headache. You also don't get to be artistic. Or only so far as an engineering discipline allows. And I couldn't possibly care about your "woooh, Python/Ruby/C rocks" attitude.

You play by the rules, and the standards are set higher. You don't like it, I hire another. I got a product to deliver, and I ain't got a gargantual marketing machine or a monopoly behind me to push shit to people and they'll keep buying next year. I got big clients for serious appications. I might be developing software for the aerospace, medical industry, or for banking institutions. Software you won't read about on Slashdot or here.

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You can hire open source developers and if you pay enough money you can be a monkey and they won't care.

You know what? Do you know about the limits of Eiffel? Well, if you can write bug-free Eiffel code maybe you should declare that as a feature of your softwares, and if a customer finds bugs in your programs, allow them to get their money back.

Your attitude is to pretend that the differences of Eiffel will make if bullet proof or something. Silver bullets don't exist. Hard work is the only way to advance in removing the montain, one chunk at a time.

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