Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 17:51 UTC
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Microsoft is making a bigger push to keep students and teachers using Windows this week. At the annual Bett education show in London, Microsoft is revealing new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices that are priced from just $189. The software giant is also partnering with the BBC, LEGO, NASA, PBS, and Pearson to bring a variety of Mixed Reality and video curricula to schools.

Lenovo has created a $189 100e laptop. It’s based on Intel’s Celeron Apollo Lake chips, so it’s a low-cost netbook essentially, designed for schools. Lenovo is also introducing its 300e, a 2-in-1 laptop with pen support, priced at $279. The new Lenovo devices are joined by two from JP, with a Windows Hello laptop priced at $199 and a pen and touch device at $299. All four laptops will be targeted towards education, designed to convince schools not to switch to Chromebooks.

I'm not sure if these wil persuade schools away from Chromebooks, but assuming non-education customers can get them as well, they may be great little machines for running secondary operating systems on.

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RE: Again?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 18:55 UTC in reply to "Again?"
Bill Shooter of Bul
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2006-07-14

HP Stream
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/laptops/stream-notebook-348017--1#!&t...

Those seem to start at $199. So these are slightly cheaper.

Not sure the price difference will change things much. I do have friends administering chromebooks in schools. They absolutely love them. They've replaced both ipads and windows computers in many applications. I don't think they'd be willing to go back to either.

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RE[2]: Again?
by bnolsen on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 18:57 in reply to "RE: Again?"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

My kids all use chromebooks at school. I have 2 chromebooks at home and they get tons of use, my wife and kids use them exclusively.

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RE[3]: Again?
by BlueofRainbow on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 22:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Again?"
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There is also a major shift in the applications used for school work.

I have two kids who have been four grades apart going through middle school and high school.

For the oldest, using MS Office was pretty much the expectation for the production of home work.

For the youngest, using Google "Office Equivalent" is pretty much mandatory for the production of home work. Given the amount of typing involved, the notebook form factor is preferable over the tablet form factor.

This is for less than five years difference.....

While end-users may look at the cost per device, schools also have to look at the cost of the supporting infrastructure and its management. Without looking at that aspect, it is difficult to say if Schools which switched to a ChromeOS based infrastructure will consider switching back to a Windows based one.

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RE[3]: Again?
by benoitb on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 08:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Again?"
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2010-06-29

What are they using the Chromebooks for ?

When I was studying engineering I would be running compilers, Matlab, SolidEdge which I think are not yet available on ChromeOS ?

Before that I didn't really need a laptop for studies in high school.

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RE[3]: Again?
by grat on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 13:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Again?"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

My kids all use chromebooks at school. I have 2 chromebooks at home and they get tons of use, my wife and kids use them exclusively.


So what happens when Google Alphabet decides ChromeOS is a failure, and changes their cloud to only support Fuscia?

What you're really saying is "My kids use Google Data Centers at school, via a cheap terminal"-- and implied, but not stated, is that Google uses your kids for market research and advertising opportunities.

That functionality will only exist as long as it makes Google money.

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RE[2]: Again?
by avgalen on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 11:16 in reply to "RE: Again?"
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2010-09-23

It isn't just the hardware. Microsoft has also improved the management and support with things like inTune, AutoPilot, OS-Refresh/OS-Reset, better online software, OS-licenses, etc.

Basically Microsoft is doing everything that they can not to loose the education market. In the US it might be too late because ChromeBooks have gained too much mindshare and marketshare. In the rest of the world ChromeBooks are a rarity that is slowly picking up steam.
ChromeBooks just make a lot of sense for the education market with the best balance of "dumb-terminal" and "local smarts and processing power".

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