Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 17:51 UTC
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Microsoft is making a bigger push to keep students and teachers using Windows this week. At the annual Bett education show in London, Microsoft is revealing new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices that are priced from just $189. The software giant is also partnering with the BBC, LEGO, NASA, PBS, and Pearson to bring a variety of Mixed Reality and video curricula to schools.

Lenovo has created a $189 100e laptop. It’s based on Intel’s Celeron Apollo Lake chips, so it’s a low-cost netbook essentially, designed for schools. Lenovo is also introducing its 300e, a 2-in-1 laptop with pen support, priced at $279. The new Lenovo devices are joined by two from JP, with a Windows Hello laptop priced at $199 and a pen and touch device at $299. All four laptops will be targeted towards education, designed to convince schools not to switch to Chromebooks.

I'm not sure if these wil persuade schools away from Chromebooks, but assuming non-education customers can get them as well, they may be great little machines for running secondary operating systems on.

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RE: I'm a bit off but...
by cranfordio on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 20:58 UTC in reply to "I'm a bit off but..."
cranfordio
Member since:
2005-11-10

While individuals can usually find great deals on used laptops it is a lot harder for a school. Not that we can’t find the deals, just that it is hard to find them in the volume you need without having to buy dozens of different models which can add additional problems. I buy ~140 laptops every year, and we are a medium sized private school. I used to work for a district that bought around 5000 laptops per year. But, I still would never buy this. My experience with any laptop that cost less than $500 brand new has always been horrible, at least as far as having them in the hands of middle school kids they are.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Did you ever try buying laptops off lease?

I used to help source pcs for my school friends from various online off lease resellers.

They worked out pretty well. Would recommend to any school that wants Windows for some reason. Now, obviously no warentee or service plan existed. So that's not so great, but otherwise they worked out well as expected for windows pcs.

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RE[2]: I'm a bit off but...
by kwan_e on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 23:15 in reply to "RE: I'm a bit off but..."
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

The first question to ask is does laptops actually help with education?

Research says not really.

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RE[3]: I'm a bit off but...
by Adurbe on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 10:32 in reply to "RE[2]: I'm a bit off but..."
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

The reality of the modern work place means that familiarity with working on computers is probably more important than handwriting (which is taught directly).

From simple note taking to any form of document writing. A computer is the go-to device. Yet, we don't teach kids effective typing techniques. In part, this is why RSI is so prevalent in the workplace.

It depends if you consider the role of education is (at least in part) to also prepare you for the workplace or not. Personally, I do.

I would be interested to see the research you are referring to that says it doesn't help though. Always willing to learn after all!

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RE[3]: I'm a bit off but...
by avgalen on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 10:54 in reply to "RE[2]: I'm a bit off but..."
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

The first question to ask is does laptops actually help with education?

Research says not really.

Citation needed!

It is obvious that computers (laptops/tablets/my-first-sony) can help with education. My son is raised Japanese+Dutch an will go to a Dutch+English kindergarten. At that kindergarten there are also children that use computers to learn Dutch while my son is learning English with most other children from the teacher.
The computer cannot replace the teacher for everything all the time, but it can surely help with education. A computer is also far cheaper (1000 Euro for hardware+software+maintenance per year) than a teacher (60000 Euro per year).

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