Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Jan 2018 23:35 UTC
Apple

For several years, Apple has been steadily designing more and more of the chips powering its iPhones, iPads, Macs and Apple Watches. This creates a better user experience and helps trump rivals. Recently the company got a fresh incentive to go all-in on silicon: revelations that microprocessors with components designed by Intel Corp., Arm Holdings Plc and Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. are vulnerable to hacking.

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That original “system-on-a-chip” has since been succeeded by increasingly powerful processors. Today, Apple packs its devices with custom components that process artificial intelligence tasks, track your steps, power game graphics, secure Face ID or Touch ID data, run the Apple Watch, pair AirPods to your phone and help make Macs work the way they do. The result: a chip powerhouse that could one day threaten the dominance of Qualcomm Inc. and even, eventually, Intel.

Apple's chip business really puts the company in a unique position. No other phone or PC maker can rely on such a powerful chip division, with the exception of Samsung, but Samsung's own ARM chips are nowhere near as powerful as Apple's. Assuming Apple manages to turn their chip prowess into real-world advantages for users, it'll be hard for competitors to catch up.

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Apple and security don't mix
by larwilliams on Wed 31st Jan 2018 03:06 UTC
larwilliams
Member since:
2007-04-03

I hope people don't think that Apple processors are more secure. We know that their software is far from it, so to expect them to be better at something that is infinitely more difficult is foolish.

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

I suspect that Samsung and ARM does almost all of the design and engineering work on the 'Apple' chips.

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sergio Member since:
2005-07-06

I suspect that Samsung and ARM does almost all of the design and engineering work on the 'Apple' chips.


Apple bought PA Semi years ago and they had the best RISC cpu engineers in the world.

But hey, bashing Apple is so cool...

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RE: Apple and security don't mix
by Brendan on Wed 31st Jan 2018 16:37 in reply to "Apple and security don't mix"
Brendan Member since:
2005-11-16

Hi,

I hope people don't think that Apple processors are more secure. We know that their software is far from it, so to expect them to be better at something that is infinitely more difficult is foolish.


More importantly, we know that all of Apple's CPUs are vulnerable to both Meltdown and Spectre (see: https://www.techarp.com/guides/complete-meltdown-spectre-cpu-list/3/ ).

- Brendan

Edited 2018-01-31 16:38 UTC

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viton Member since:
2005-08-09

More importantly, we know that all of Apple's CPUs are vulnerable to both Meltdown and Spectre


Nowhere it states that "all" are vulnerable to "both".
A4, A5 are ARM designs (Cortex-A8, Cortex-A9) and they are not affected by Meltdown.
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update

I don't know yet which Apple-designed cores are vulnerable by meltdown, but is definitely not all.

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