Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Feb 2018 18:20 UTC, submitted by jido
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Over the weekend, Nokia released a new feature phone, the 8110 4G - a re-imagining of the phone used in The Matrix. I really like the design of this phone, and at a price of just €79, it looks like a steal. The most interesting part of the phone, other than its lovely design, is the operating system it runs. It's called KaiOS, a distant cousin to Firefox OS.

KaiOS is not Firefox OS. Our platform is based on the original Mozilla project. We even have people from the original Mozilla team in our engineering and UX departments. But KaiOS has been developed into something much more robust and expanded than the original Firefox OS. Think of us as distant cousins, not siblings nor children.

It's a HTML5-based operating system already in use in a whole bunch of phones today - they claim it's already on 30 million phones in India and North America - and on the 8110 4G, it has that traditional, classic Nokia design with a modern touch. I'm really curious to see just how powerful or expandable (maybe even hackable?) this feature phone platform is.

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RE[3]: OS
by The1stImmortal on Mon 26th Feb 2018 21:39 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: OS"
The1stImmortal
Member since:
2005-10-20

Yes, but the title says:

"It's a HTML5-based operating system..."

An HTML5 engine is a top most layer in userland. When I was young it would not have been called an OS at all.

Eh. The same argument was had over whether windows 3.x was an "operating system" or a "shell". Ultimately as long as everyone understands each other, doesn't really matter.

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RE[4]: OS
by leech on Tue 27th Feb 2018 05:46 in reply to "RE[3]: OS"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

"Yes, but the title says:

"It's a HTML5-based operating system..."

An HTML5 engine is a top most layer in userland. When I was young it would not have been called an OS at all.

Eh. The same argument was had over whether windows 3.x was an "operating system" or a "shell". Ultimately as long as everyone understands each other, doesn't really matter.
"

It was a goddamn shell sitting on top of DOS...I'll stick by that! Windows 95 was only different because it actually handled the memory and such.

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RE[5]: OS
by moondevil on Tue 27th Feb 2018 08:27 in reply to "RE[4]: OS"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I would agree up to Windows 3.1, when enhanced and V86 modes were introduced.

After switching to 386 protected mode, with its own executable, driver model and memory management. MS-DOS was reduced to a boot loader similar to UEFI nowadays.

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RE[5]: OS
by jockm on Tue 27th Feb 2018 17:13 in reply to "RE[4]: OS"
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Except that after startup Windows 3 (unlike Windows 1 and 2) replaced most of DOS with it's own internal code and never touched DOS again. I argue it was an OS that used a different OS to boot

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RE[5]: OS
by Megol on Tue 27th Feb 2018 18:36 in reply to "RE[4]: OS"
Megol Member since:
2011-04-11

"[q]Yes, but the title says:

"It's a HTML5-based operating system..."

An HTML5 engine is a top most layer in userland. When I was young it would not have been called an OS at all.

Eh. The same argument was had over whether windows 3.x was an "operating system" or a "shell". Ultimately as long as everyone understands each other, doesn't really matter.
"

It was a goddamn shell sitting on top of DOS...I'll stick by that! Windows 95 was only different because it actually handled the memory and such. [/q]

...

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