Linked by garyd on Thu 12th Apr 2018 22:36 UTC
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Google has posted the beginnings of a documentation project around their microkernel based OS, Fuchsia. From the readme:

This document is a collection of articles describing the Fuchsia operating system, organized around particular subsystems. Sections will be populated over time.

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Love the homage to GNU
by woegjiub on Thu 12th Apr 2018 23:42 UTC
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2008-11-25

In terms of the result, given how android's going...

Here's hoping there'll at least be a fuchsia equivalent to vanilla AOSP for mainstream devices.

Google's ethos seems effectively antithetical to GNU ( and Linux and *BSD... )

Freaking cool seeing a mainstream microkernel-based OS being born before our eyes though.

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RE: Love the homage to GNU
by moondevil on Fri 13th Apr 2018 06:51 in reply to "Love the homage to GNU"
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2005-07-08

On Android the only GPL piece left standing is the kernel.

With Fuchsia that "problem" is gone.

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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
by Ford Prefect on Fri 13th Apr 2018 13:07 in reply to "RE: Love the homage to GNU"
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2006-01-16

Not true, Android uses OpenJDK which is also GPL.

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RE: Love the homage to GNU
by RobG on Fri 13th Apr 2018 09:59 in reply to "Love the homage to GNU"
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2012-10-17

Absolutely agree with you that it is fascinating watching this grow. I really hope it gets some traction, as we could really do with seeing a microkernel-based system in the mainstream.

Always seemed a shame to me that MS seems to have dropped there research with Singularity and Midori - which combined Microkernel design with managed code to give an architecture that could be really secure without compromising performance.

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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
by Kochise on Fri 13th Apr 2018 10:08 in reply to "RE: Love the homage to GNU"
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2006-03-03

Never understood why Minix3 never got any traction, even though the millions injected by EU. They had to "migrate" to (net)BSD to start getting a little bit relevant.

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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
by abraxas on Fri 13th Apr 2018 17:54 in reply to "RE: Love the homage to GNU"
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2005-07-07

Absolutely agree with you that it is fascinating watching this grow. I really hope it gets some traction, as we could really do with seeing a microkernel-based system in the mainstream.

Always seemed a shame to me that MS seems to have dropped there research with Singularity and Midori - which combined Microkernel design with managed code to give an architecture that could be really secure without compromising performance.


Probably because a pure microkernel with managed code WOULD compromise performance. It's basically impossible not to. Any claim to the contrary is purely marketing spin.

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RE: Love the homage to GNU
by Vistaus on Fri 13th Apr 2018 10:47 in reply to "Love the homage to GNU"
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2018-03-21

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Minix already a mainstream microkernel OS? It's used in most, if not all, Intel CPU's.

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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
by Kochise on Fri 13th Apr 2018 11:06 in reply to "RE: Love the homage to GNU"
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2006-03-03

If you go down that path... What about update ability of those Intel chips with an open source implementation of the said firmware ?

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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
by jessesmith on Fri 13th Apr 2018 14:31 in reply to "RE: Love the homage to GNU"
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2010-03-11

A highly modified version of MINIX is run on many Intel CPUs. That's not the same as MINIX itself being run by a user. Calling MINIX mainstream is quite a stretch.

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