Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Sep 2018 23:34 UTC
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"People have a really hard time understanding URLs," says Adrienne Porter Felt, Chrome's engineering manager. "They're hard to read, it's hard to know which part of them is supposed to be trusted, and in general I don't think URLs are working as a good way to convey site identity. So we want to move toward a place where web identity is understandable by everyone - they know who they're talking to when they're using a website and they can reason about whether they can trust them. But this will mean big changes in how and when Chrome displays URLs. We want to challenge how URLs should be displayed and question it as we're figuring out the right way to convey identity."

Judging by the reactions across the web to this news, I'm going to have the minority opinion by saying that I'm actually a proponent of looking at what's wrong with the status quo so we can try to improve it. Computing is actually an incredibly conservative industry, and far too often the reaction to "can we do this better?" is "no, because it's always been that way".

That being said, I'm not a fan of such an undertaking in this specific case being done by a for-profit, closed entity such as Google. I know the Chromium project is open source, but it's effectively a Google project and what they decide goes - an important effort such as modernizing the URL scheme should be an industry-wide effort.

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RE[5]: Conservative
by shogun56 on Fri 7th Sep 2018 21:08 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Conservative"
shogun56
Member since:
2018-09-07

> So I can't write the names of my family members in an e-mail?

Nope! Declare the body of your email as a multi-part with mime and charset per the RFC and you'll be fine.

But if you think the SMTP transport layer has any obligation to accommodate you doing it WRONG, or your email client to auto-magically deduce there's some Unicode in the body and "help you out" you're naive.

Follow the specification or reap the consequences.

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RE[6]: Conservative
by Sodki on Fri 7th Sep 2018 21:55 in reply to "RE[5]: Conservative"
Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

> So I can't write the names of my family members in an e-mail?

Nope! Declare the body of your email as a multi-part with mime and charset per the RFC and you'll be fine.


I seemed to have misinterpreted your previous quote, then. I mostly agree with you, but I do believe the subject and other fields should support all characters in some form or fashion.

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RE[6]: Conservative
by Alfman on Sat 8th Sep 2018 01:05 in reply to "RE[5]: Conservative"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

shogun56,


No, the problem is not unicode or utf-8 support or lack thereof. The problem is the RETARD who thought it was a good idea to put non-plain-text in the Subject of an email or anywhere in the body!

YOU DON"T DO THAT! Period. People who are too stupid to understand plain text is the ONLY correct way to do things do not belong in the chain of decision-making or programming.


Congrats, I completely didn't anticipate this sort of response. Instead of responding to your point though, I'm going to sit back and let others do that while I watch the show. Also, welcome to osnews ;)

Edited 2018-09-08 01:16 UTC

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RE[7]: Conservative
by galvanash on Sat 8th Sep 2018 05:59 in reply to "RE[6]: Conservative"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

LOL

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