Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Sep 2018 00:03 UTC, submitted by hornett
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Terrence Andrew Davis, sole creator and developer of TempleOS (née LoseThos), has passed away at age 48. Davis suffered from mental illness - schizophrenia - which had a severe impact on his life. He claimed he created his operating system after having spoken with and receiving instructions from god, and he was a controversial figure, also here on OSNews, for his incomprehensible rants and abrasive style towards OSNews readers and staff. We eventually had to ban him, but our then-editor Kroc Kamen worked with him in 2010 to publish an article about his operating system despite his ban.

Davis was clearly a gifted programmer - writing an entire operating system is no small feat - and it was sad to see him affected by his mental illness. I mourn his passing, and I wish his family and friends all the strength they need in these trying times. His family and friends are asking people to donate to "organizations working to ease the pain and suffering caused by mental illness", such as The Brain & Behaviour Research Foundation or the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

I hope he found peace - wherever he may be.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Sat 8th Sep 2018 09:08 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Terry's response to the article:

Kroc,

You seem to have a good sense of perceptions on the street. I was impressed
how you handled the LoseThos story. Kinda a lost cause.

I'd ask you for advice, but I'm probably not willing to follow-through.

"Quit being crazy!"

So, you thought about doing some part of a mobile OS? I don't even have
a phone, believe it or not. I don't like those tiny computers -- had
enough in various jobs.

I thought about blowing some money on advertising. I don't have much
but have saved some over the years. Don't buy much. I guess you're obliged to recommend OSNews.

This is cool -- a Google search of "64-bit Operating System" has me at the top of page two. A serach
of "64-bit Free Operating System" has me near the top of page one. I can't believe my luck, honestly.

Couple days ago I made a FaceBook and Twitter page. Practically, no buzz at all on the net. I can't figure that out. I guess people try it and move on and it is not very significant to them. There is no buzz on Google searches of "LoseThos" to speak of.

One bit of wisdom I learned with a edutainment program called "SimStructure" is that
people mostly only use simple features and don't bother to use advanced features. They don't feel like learning. This might be a different crowd.

In case you're curious, I had liek 63 downloads during the first day of the OSNews story and 50 the next. It started to die-off. Then, I did a new release to www.betanews.com which gets picked-up by www.majorgeeks.com and I had 40 downloads for a few days.

When I have no prominant storys in the news, I get about 6 a day. I get 10-20 at source forge but
I don't trust those download numbers. There are robots and stuff.

I do a new release every two weeks and get listed on beta news and major geeks and get typically 35
downloads then 20. Then it dies. This has gone on for 2 years and absolutely nothing has changed. No buzz.

I've really improved losthos an lot--they quality is way way better of the code. It doesn't appear different though graphically.

You remember "it's the economy, stupid." well "it's the graphics stupid.", huh. I can't change modes, but I guess I could do a lot better job of making it pretty with what I got. I hate art :-)

Kind regards,

Terry

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by _QJ_ on Sat 8th Sep 2018 19:20 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
_QJ_ Member since:
2009-03-12

I must react Kroc. I have worked with ASD.

The "normal" people must learn that, facing what they call a "peculiar person" is, just a person out of our own conventions.

In my company, I had the chance to work in a small team of developers composed of 8 "normal" persons, two diagnosed ASD and a deaf.

It turns out rapidly that the first ASD was very powerful at repetitive tasks and, I gave him the sources configuration management. Build, packaging, delivery note and other Q&A borrowing tasks were always on time. With a high quality process. He never did a mistake.

The second ASD was more problematic : A kind of pissing code robot, providing you 18K lines of SLOC/day without any social interaction. Just gave him a specifications book input, and request that the code must compile before his delivery. Because he preferred to discuss with a gcc output than a human being. Not more, no team meeting, no discussion possible about his code. Nothing else than coding.

The deaf person turns out to be very strong at concentrating in the noisy computers tests rooms. So he was very good at debug and patch, the code of the second ASD... And I learned sign language to communicate with him through windows (Not Windows(R)). A kind of crypto-communication through air, at distance : Priceless.

Nine months... The whole team was awarded by the company for its performances and, its capacity to deliver complex embedded software on time, with high quality and customer satisfaction.

This is the proof if, "normal" people can open their mind, adapt to "peculiar" others", and pass out their own conventions, we can find the real power of "peculiar" people.

And, when you find this power... It's always amazing to ordinary people.

Terry was probably the kind of particular person very difficult to understand for a conventional one.
But you Kroc, got the chance to see the good part of Terry Davis, and understand why it may worth it.

A "peculiar" person to understand another very peculiar person... Again, I got a lesson as an ordinary person.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by Doc Pain on Sat 8th Sep 2018 23:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

The "normal" people must learn that, facing what they call a "peculiar person" is, just a person out of our own conventions.


I think you mentioned something very important here. Allow me a different kind of expressing it:

In many (and probably most) societies, "non-normal" people are considered inferior, faulty, problematic, unadapted, inadequate, or even "human waste". This also happens in "developed countries". The "normal" people (or "neurotypical", to mention a different word), are of course the inferior ones, and they make the rules everyone else has to conform to. They emphasize this "deficit mindset" as the only way for looking at those who they cannot understand.

Seeing the "unadjustedness" as a chance, as potential, as strength, as special ability, maybe even as a "super-power" is not common.

So why is this considered inferior? Wouldn't it be more natural just to see the word "different" to apply correctly here?

And what about the self-proclaimed "normal" people? They smile while lying to you; they wave their hand in a friendly manner while stabbing you in the back. Always friendly, always communicating, always doing what the boss tells them to do, even if it's stupid.

In my company, I had the chance to work in a small team of developers composed of 8 "normal" persons, two diagnosed ASD and a deaf.

It turns out rapidly that the first ASD was very powerful at repetitive tasks and, I gave him the sources configuration management. Build, packaging, delivery note and other Q&A borrowing tasks were always on time. With a high quality process. He never did a mistake.


I've worked with a proofreader who would spot everything: from missing or superfluous spaces, from wrong dashes to inconsistent quotes. In terms of accuracy and speed, he beat every automated tool. But of course he was the first who got fired because "the PC can do it on its own", and you can surely guess the outcome...

The second ASD was more problematic : A kind of pissing code robot, providing you 18K lines of SLOC/day without any social interaction. Just gave him a specifications book input, and request that the code must compile before his delivery. Because he preferred to discuss with a gcc output than a human being. Not more, no team meeting, no discussion possible about his code. Nothing else than coding.


In today's corporate culture, the disability to perform in a meeting would probably be a no-go ("does not match our vision"), even though he'd probably be a better coder than those folks with their shiny certificates who can't even do FizzBuzz - and don't tell me those don't exist, I tend to meet them on a daily basis! :-)

Nine months... The whole team was awarded by the company for its performances and, its capacity to deliver complex embedded software on time, with high quality and customer satisfaction.


I really like the idea that people who do a good job get rewarded for doing that job - not for being seen by the boss, not for sitting in a pointless meeting, not for participating in the staff party at the bar. Shouldn't be the "getting work done" the most important thing for the employer, rather than wibbly-wobbly "social skills" (boiling down to "I like you" / "I don't like you" as the basis of employment / termination decisions)? Who would you chose for a job, the "non-normal" who does the 8 hours job in 4 hours with 100 % accuracy who doesn't want to shake hands, or the happily smiling and pretty looking man in the suit with the suitcase full of certificates who needs two days for the 8 hours job and just achieves 50 % accuracy? Yes, I know: The man in the suit; "He's passionate, reports in early, stays on overtime, engages with the job, identifies with the company, and invites the team for a beer!" ;-)

This is the proof if, "normal" people can open their mind, adapt to "peculiar" others", and pass out their own conventions, we can find the real power of "peculiar" people.


Definitely. "Non-normal" people are a great source to learn from. Prople with "normal" minds often cannot imagine to leave the predefined ways, which stops them from acquiring a different point of view toward a a problem, and that makes it impossible for them to see a better solution.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by zima on Tue 11th Sep 2018 11:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Couple days ago I made a FaceBook and Twitter page. Practically, no buzz at all on the net. I can't figure that out. I guess people try it and move on and it is not very significant to them. There is no buzz on Google searches of "LoseThos" to speak of.

It seems it didn't occur to him that "commanded by god" characteristics of his OS made it rather uninteresting...

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