Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Nov 2005 18:41 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Linux "I did not write this to say that people who do not know much about computers need to be told what to do, or to assert that Windows is not a good OS for casual users, but rather to point out that Linux is a great choice for this. Advances in desktop Linux have made it a perfect choice for casual and beginning users who don't necessarily have to (or want to) put up with Windows. Whether this is done for ease of use, to save on licensing fees, or to be able to make the best out of an old computer, it makes sense."
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Best OS for a beginning....
by OMRebel on Tue 29th Nov 2005 20:03 UTC
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2005-11-14

...is the OS that their friends run. Because, it's going to be those friends that get stuck answering the countless questions during the first several weeks.

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markjensen Member since:
2005-07-26

In this case, it looks like the son has taken it upon himself to be the system administrator for his parent's PC. Or, more accurately, his parents have perviously put him in the posititon of administrator for some time.

Fundamentally, I disagree with forcing a Windows-to-Linux conversion on a friend, family member, or other acquaintance. I use it 100% at home, but this is a choice that the owner/user of the PC should make.

Granted, in this situation, perhaps it will be the better solution, all around. There should be less admin hassles, once the transition/adjustment period is over, it seems that the writer is more comfortable being a Linux admin than a Windows admin.

I think that this specific example is more of an exception than the rule. At least at this point in time.

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RE[2]: Best OS for a beginning....
by on Wed 30th Nov 2005 10:45 in reply to "RE: Best OS for a beginning...."
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Well if he, (like me) ends up doing all the suppot for the machine for free, it will be his time wasted farting about on crappily configured windows PC's bought from some high street store. The cost of doing it professionally would probably cost as much as the PC.

In that sense, if they want the computer support for nothing, I see him as being perfectly justified in making th echoice for them, especially as he says he had a very good idea of their requirements.

Its starting to piss me off these days taht I use Linux almost all of the time at home myself, yet everyone elses computer that I have to "fix", is enevetably windows.

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Ringheims Auto Member since:
2005-07-23

...is the OS that their friends run. Because, it's going to be those friends that get stuck answering the countless questions during the first several weeks.

This is so true. A friend of mine, who's not into computers at all, used mine for a while until she got an ibook. I use XFCE on mine, and she thought that was easier, and there were more "clear lines" than os x. Me I suspect this was mostly because of habit, and it illustrates how people don't like to switch to something else once they've got used to something. This also applied to me, cause I had to be the admin of this machine for a while, and for a GNU/Linux guy OS X is not always that easy to figure out (fx the weirdo folder-structure... I still don't get it).

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RE: Best OS for a beginning....
by ma_d on Tue 29th Nov 2005 22:19 in reply to "Best OS for a beginning...."
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2005-06-29

No. The best OS is the OS that the guy who fixes their PC runs... Their friends will get to hear the questions, but their techie will be providing the correct answers (hopefully correct at least).

If you're "genius computer whiz" down the street runs Windows, then that's what you're stuck with. If you're proficient enough to learn new things on your own, you'll do fine asking your Linux questions in forums; but most people I've met seem to be so afraid of their computer that they need someone to sit down with them and help them in every way.

Now, when I said most, I mean most of the ones I'd call beginners. There's also a large group who are very willing to learn, but they've only got so much time.

Linux adoption will take time and effort. And that's fine with me.

I hope his parents do well with Mandrake. I'd be nervous about recommending Amarok though, it's been pretty consistently buggy. I've used about 4-5 releases of it, and only the most recent hasn't crashed on me more than 10 times. The bugs are at least predictable, but still.. Rhythmbox was always much more stable for me.

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RE: Best OS for a beginning....
by ma_d on Tue 29th Nov 2005 22:28 in reply to "Best OS for a beginning...."
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

No. The best OS is the OS that the guy who fixes their PC runs... Their friends will get to hear the questions, but their techie will be providing the correct answers (hopefully correct at least).

If you're "genius computer whiz" down the street runs Windows, then that's what you're stuck with. If you're proficient enough to learn new things on your own, you'll do fine asking your Linux questions in forums; but most people I've met seem to be so afraid of their computer that they need someone to sit down with them and help them in every way.

Now, when I said most, I mean most of the ones I'd call beginners. There's also a large group who are very willing to learn, but they've only got so much time.

Linux adoption will take time and effort. And that's fine with me.

I hope his parents do well with Mandrake. I'd be nervous about recommending Amarok though, it's been pretty consistently buggy. I've used about 4-5 releases of it, and only the most recent hasn't crashed on me more than 10 times. The bugs are at least predictable, but still.. Rhythmbox was always much more stable for me.

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