Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Dec 2005 12:26 UTC, submitted by Piethein Strengholt
X11, Window Managers "We are pleased to announce the availability of the third full Release Candidate for the upcoming X.Org Foundation release of X11R6.9 and X11R7. RC3 includes many bug fixes and updates. We have tagged both the monolithic and modular trees and have prepared tarballs for you to test."
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RE[5]: Question
by adamk on Mon 5th Dec 2005 17:36 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Question"
adamk
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2005-07-08

Sorry, but for all your boohooing about the performance of ATI's binary drivers, for me, and God knows how many others: they work. They work well. They play every 3D game available today, including quake4 and doom3. The only issue I've ever had with them is playing certain games with cedega and for that I blame cedega.

Compare this to my first (and only) experiences with nVidia's linux drivers with my old GF: total system lockups.

As far as I'm concerned, there's no comparison.

Adam

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RE[6]: Question
by on Mon 5th Dec 2005 17:59 in reply to "RE[5]: Question"
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Hello, I just wanted to add some comments to the nvidia drivers vs. ATI drivers from the point of view of a nvidia graphics chipset user (I never owned an ATI card). The problem is that someone here is trying to imply that nvidia support for Linux is bad, which is certainly not the case.

Maybe three years ago the nvidia drivers were bad. I remember them locking my system which had a geforce ddr (that is a geforce 1 card). Fortunatelly, drivers improved quickly and it's been ages since they locked my system. I use Slackware and the latest Linux kernel. They always compile without problems and performance is great.

Granted, when the 4k stacks kernel option was introduced, they wouldn't work. At several points in time (2 or 3 times IIRC), the drivers wouldn't compile with a new kernel. Remember these kernels were released after the nvidia driver was released. nvidia always solved these small compile problems in a matter of days or maybe one or two weeks in the worst case. For the impatient users, one or two days after the problem is detected, the nvidia people post patches in the web forums that you can apply to the extracted sources and made it compile again quickly.

So, all in all, my experience with nvidia cards under Linux has been great for the last 3 years. Certainly, nvidia's support for Linux is not bad. Drivers are stable, perform very well and are made by nvidia themselves. Whether you prefer open source drivers is a different question, but I wouldn't consider nvidia support bad, at all.

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RE[6]: Question
by segedunum on Mon 5th Dec 2005 18:26 in reply to "RE[5]: Question"
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2005-07-06

Sorry, but for all your boohooing about the performance of ATI's binary drivers, for me, and God knows how many others: they work. They work well. They play every 3D game available today, including quake4 and doom3.

You're in a bit of denial over this. I simply cannot go out and buy a modern ATI graphics card, install some up to date drivers and have the card work 100%. I can with nVidia. The fact that much older cards work is all fine and well, but you're not going to get any kind of performance out of them for Doom 3 and Quake 4. In fact, you won't be able to play those games unless you seriously cripple the gameplay, and I doubt whether you'd be able to play them even then.

Compare this to my first (and only) experiences with nVidia's linux drivers with my old GF: total system lockups.

GeForces work 100%. Anything suggestion to the contrary is total crap. If it's a very modern GeForce with the latest drivers then there might have been one or two problems (as you get with Windows at times), but compare that to a modern ATI card you might buy - it simply won't work period. Every slightly older GeForce will work totally.

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RE[7]: Question
by adamk on Mon 5th Dec 2005 19:09 in reply to "RE[6]: Question"
adamk Member since:
2005-07-08

You're in a bit of denial over this. I simply cannot go out and buy a modern ATI graphics card, install some up to date drivers and have the card work 100%.

I did just that with an X700 a few days ago, and could have just as easily done it with an X800.

GeForces work 100%. Anything suggestion to the contrary is total crap.

That maybe true now, but they sure didn't work when I last tried them, and suggesting they did is total crap.

Adam

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RE[7]: Question
by on Mon 5th Dec 2005 19:22 in reply to "RE[6]: Question"
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GeForces work 100%. Anything suggestion to the contrary is total crap. If it's a very modern GeForce with the latest drivers then there might have been one or two problems (as you get with Windows at times), but compare that to a modern ATI card you might buy - it simply won't work period. Every slightly older GeForce will work totally.

Actually this isn't true at all. I've had serious hangs related to the propiretary nvidia drivers at various points in time. Also, anything post GeForce FX is no longer supported, which leaves my fully functional GF2 with the open driver. Which btw has had zero problems since I swithed to them.

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