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how about you going to nvidias site and checking out which ones are still supported in any recent releases?

Try reading then:

http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8174/README/32bit_...

The GeForce 2 variants that are still supported are not actually based on the same chip..

So what? They're much older cards, and I specifically stated that older variants like the GTS, 256 etc. (and they pre-date Linux support by a long way) weren't supported, but then again, they're not supported in the current Windows drivers either:

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/winxp_2k_81.95_uk.html

All that stuff about cards prior to GeForce FX (of which there are many variants) not being supported is crap then, isn't it?

I'll be waiting here for your appologies..

You're going to be waiting a long time then.

So what? They're much older cards, and I specifically stated that older variants like the GTS, 256 etc. (and they pre-date Linux support by a long way) weren't supported,

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? nVidia's page for the v1.0-1251 driver even says These XFree86 binary drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration of OpenGL applications via a direct-rendering X Server and support the TNT, TNT2, GeForce 256, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 Pro, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce 2 Ultra, GeForce2 Go, GeForce3, Quadro, Quadro2 MXR, and Quadro2 Pro chipsets. AGP and flat panel displays are also supported.

And there were even drivers before the v1.0 release, if I recall correctly. So there's no way that the GTS and 256 pre-date nVidia's linux support by a long way. Nice try. Care to pass off another lie?

Adam

Edited 2005-12-05 23:47

Now I've really have had enough of your bullshit. My GeForce 2 would predate linux support from nvidia? By a long way even? My ass. It was supported up until 7174 or something like that. Then they dropped it as a "legacy" card. Meaning newer drivers needed for newer kernels won't work for it. You really should read up before calling people liars to their face, asshole.

Just face it: You said GeForces work 100%. Anything suggestion to the contrary is total crap. If it's a very modern GeForce with the latest drivers then there might have been one or two problems (as you get with Windows at times), but compare that to a modern ATI card you might buy - it simply won't work period. Every slightly older GeForce will work totally.

this is the definition for "Crap" I think. And finally, just because you've never had any problems doesn't mean someone who had did something wrong, you arrogant twit.

My GeForce 2 would predate linux support from nvidia? By a long way even? My ass. It was supported up until 7174

The discussion was about GeForces before the MXs and such like - stuff like the 256 and GTS which date from about 2000. The TNT dates from 1998. You might want to read before you post dumbass.

this is the definition for "Crap" I think. And finally, just because you've never had any problems doesn't mean someone who had did something wrong, you arrogant twit.

That's the definition of someone arsing about with their system and blaming it on the drivers. If you install nVidia drivers on any supported system and don't muck about with your really cool new RenderAccel or composite stuff they work, 100% every time. Did you read that link I pointed to above?

As everyone knows, including ID software, the open source drivers do not provide good performance for games by any stretch:

http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-e3be6937aaac89148c0...

Although the recent proprietary ATI drivers have fortunately, and finally, improved a great deal, they are still a good way from being of the quality of nVidia's over the past few years:

http://www.happypenguin.org/show?ATI%20Radeon%20Linux%2...

You may well get something to run, but it's more like luck than anything else. The breadth of support and quality in multiple situations like TV-out, dual monitors and mobile support is way behind nVidia.