Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Dec 2005 09:47 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Without tip-toeing around the matter, Linus Torvalds made his preference in the GNOME vs. KDE matter quite clear on the GNOME-usability list: "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE. This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do. Please, just tell people to use KDE." Also, "Gnome seems to be developed by interface nazis, where consistently the excuse for not doing something is not 'it's too complicated to do', but 'it would confuse users'." Update: More of the discussion here.
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RE[2]: Torvalds?
by ankitmalik on Tue 13th Dec 2005 13:31 UTC in reply to "Torvalds?"
ankitmalik
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Surely, he deserves the 'Troll of the year' award.

Yeah, that's really easy to say, without answering directly his claims. Yeah, it is a "strong" opinion ... or is it?


Its easy to say so not because what he said, but how he said so! I personally have a lot of gripes with the GNOME interface and I prefer KDE over GNOME any day unless they get their interface issues sorted out. But calling them 'Interface Nazis' is crap! He is a troll not for pointing out the issues but for the way he expressed his opinion!

This is so typical: criticize GNOME - you are labeled a troll, even if you are Linus.

Again, since it comes from a well- known figure [atleast in the geek circles] , it is expected that he won't put it this way! Criticism is good but there is a way to go about it! You can't just childishly call anyone a 'Nazi' specially when you are Linus yourself!

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RE[3]: Torvalds?
by on Tue 13th Dec 2005 13:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Torvalds?"
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> He is a troll not for pointing out the issues but for the way he expressed his opinion!

Uhm, if the GNOME people don't know the issues by now then something seriously must have been wrong. There was and still is so much noise around GNOME that by now everyone knows what's wrong with it. Everyone knows except those developing GNOME.

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RE[3]: Torvalds?
by dylansmrjones on Tue 13th Dec 2005 17:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Torvalds?"
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2005-10-02

But calling them 'Interface Nazis' is crap!

Sometimes you have to do it the rough way. It doesn't make you a troll. It only makes you responsible. And they fcuking are Interface Nazis.

He is a troll not for pointing out the issues but for the way he expressed his opinion!

Noo.. He's being a responsible person and acting as such. There are certain drawbacks with Gnome, and it's getting worse for each version, so somebody MUST put an end to that part of the show.

Hopefully it did so.

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RE[4]: Torvalds?
by on Tue 13th Dec 2005 17:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Torvalds?"
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> Noo.. He's being a responsible person and acting
> as such.

Yes... Defend your idol and god. We know. Torvalds is a god. So even when he steps out of line he is behaving responsibly. Because Torvalds is a god who can do no wrong.

Give me a break. He is acting like an immature child. Stop defending his behavior just cause you put him on a god podium and worship the ground he walks on.

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