Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Dec 2005 09:47 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Without tip-toeing around the matter, Linus Torvalds made his preference in the GNOME vs. KDE matter quite clear on the GNOME-usability list: "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE. This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do. Please, just tell people to use KDE." Also, "Gnome seems to be developed by interface nazis, where consistently the excuse for not doing something is not 'it's too complicated to do', but 'it would confuse users'." Update: More of the discussion here.
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RE[5]: Yiiiirrr!!!
by on Tue 13th Dec 2005 17:51 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Yiiiirrr!!!"

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"There is not even one common Toolbar object that people can use - and use in an unaltered way so they look consistent. "

First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with object oriented programming.

Second, yes there is. There is a complete set of stock icons that come with Gtk, and if you change the theme, those stock icons will be changed too. If developers use those stock icons, their apps will pick up the Gtk theme.

Of course, you can't force developers to use stock icons in Gtk. But you can't force them to in Qt either. In otherwords, there is no toolkit that can stop developers from designing back UIs.

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v RE[6]: Yiiiirrr!!!
by on Tue 13th Dec 2005 17:57 in reply to "RE[5]: Yiiiirrr!!!"
RE[7]: Yiiiirrr!!!
by dylansmrjones on Tue 13th Dec 2005 18:01 in reply to "RE[6]: Yiiiirrr!!!"
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2005-10-02

The toolbars in different gnome applications have similar behaviour but different content.

Your statements are false.

The look of toolbars has nothing to do with object oriented programming.

The look of toolbars in gnome are very similar across applications, though the contents differ. But behaviour is similar in all of them.

You don't use Gnome apparently.

Take a look at gedit, gnumeric, openoffice, thunderbird, firefox, mozilla, epiphany, bluefish and you'll see that these applications with some even being non-gnomic actually looks and behaves the same way.

The content is different, but basic behaviour is identical.

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RE[7]: Yiiiirrr!!!
by on Tue 13th Dec 2005 18:23 in reply to "RE[6]: Yiiiirrr!!!"
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I got a better idea. Learn how to spell and talk properly, and make you will start looking like you have a clue what you are talking about. It's clear you don't.

And in case you didn't notice, you can do inheritance in Gtk. But I bet you are just too lame to actually have taken the time to figure out how.

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