"Though most people don't know it, Microsoft has, not one, but two new operating systems that it is working on. The first, Vista, many people have heard of. Currently scheduled to ship just after the second coming of Christ, Vista has garnered most of the spotlight. However there is another OS lurking in the basement in Redmond and its name is Singularity (.pdf). So what does Singularity look like? A joke, at least at first glance. But taking a moment to analyze the situation I came up with some interesting observations which I will now share with you."
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> > Go check out what the EROS/CapROS/Coyotos people have and
> > you'll see how security is done The Right Way(tm).
>
> Ok, show me a computer running Coyotos. My laptop runs
> Fedora Core Linux. It's working now, well, today. Can you
> get Coyotos to boot? Run a program?
I'm trying to figure out your point... Since what you quoted was a response to windows being secure, then I guess that you're trying to say something like: "Windows is secure because your laptop can't run Coyotos." or "Coyotos is not secure because it's not complete."
That's of course utter BS, but I probably misunderstood what you were trying to say, so please correct me if this is the case.
> If by "secure" you mean "not even the owner can get it to do
> anything", Coyotos is indeed something remarkable.
That has nothing to do with security, and I didn't say anything along those lines. The state of a project is completely orthogonal to whether its designed to make exceptional levels of security easy to achieve or not. E.g. Windows is very mature (at least in that it has been around for a while), but still its various designs make it nearly impossible to make things secure (while not becoming unusable) on almost any level.
> Otherwise, it's a research project that never made it to
> anything even remotely viable.
"That never made it"??? Apparently you have no idea what you're talking about. Coyotos is a very new project. However, its predecessor, EROS, does indeed work, and CapROS is the continuation of EROS.
You seem to think that a low number of successful attacks is what defines a system as being secure. This implies that pretty much everything that isn't popular is very secure. That's of course BS, as vulnerabilities exist, or don't exist, regardless of whether someone manages to use them or not. The fact that you don't necessarily need security if your system is obscure or uninteresting enough is a completely different thing.
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2005-10-25
Go check out what the EROS/CapROS/Coyotos people have and you'll see how security is done The Right Way(tm).
Ok, show me a computer running Coyotos. My laptop runs Fedora Core Linux. It's working now, well, today. Can you get Coyotos to boot? Run a program?
If by "secure" you mean "not even the owner can get it to do anything", Coyotos is indeed something remarkable. Otherwise, it's a research project that never made it to anything even remotely viable.