Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Dec 2005 23:44 UTC, submitted by Lazarus
BSD and Darwin derivatives Fans of DragonFly BSD will be getting their Christmas present late this year, and plans for 1.5 have been announced. MP safe networking code, the long awaited cache coherency management system, and a port of Sun's ZFS. Read here for more. Update: Refresh, empty cache, whatever, and check the shiny new beastie icon! And there was much rejoicing. Can we now please discuss DragonFly BSD?
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ZFS License
by hurdboy on Sun 18th Dec 2005 01:24 UTC
hurdboy
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2005-09-02

Maybe someone can clarify for me, but the OpenSolaris CDDL doesn't seem to be compatible with the revised BSD license under which DragonFly is released. Maybe I'm missing something?

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/

Still, I'd really like to see a new FS option for a BSD. I was kind of hoping for HFS+, myself, but ZFS seems neat, too. UFS/FFS is old, slow, and very difficult to deal with on large filesystems (fscking a large partition takes a loooong time....I've seen 140GB take nearly two hours). UFS2+softupdates still isn't data-safe (since it essentially requires async operation), and doesn't improve performance. 1TB+ filesystems. woohoo. How long have other filesystems supported that?

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RE: ZFS License
by mezz on Sun 18th Dec 2005 01:59 in reply to "ZFS License"
mezz Member since:
2005-06-29

I think, it might be same as how all BSD are doing with GPL stuff, nve (nic driver, NVIDIA license) and other stuff in the system. I might be wrong as I don't know about CDDL that much, thought.

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RE: ZFS License
by rayiner on Sun 18th Dec 2005 02:06 in reply to "ZFS License"
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

You complain UFS is old and slow, but were hoping for HFS+? We're talking about Apple's HFS+, are we not? The biggest relic of a filesystem still in common use after FAT32?

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RE[2]: ZFS License
by hurdboy on Sun 18th Dec 2005 02:30 in reply to "RE: ZFS License"
hurdboy Member since:
2005-09-02

HFS+ was completely new for OS8.1. It's a very nice modern filesystem.

HFS wouldn't help matters in BSD, no. :-)

To put it another way, there's good reason why Apple did work to make HFS+ Unix-friendly, rather than try and improve UFS for use with OSX. NeXT/Openstep used standard FFS.

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RE: ZFS License
by binarycrusader on Sun 18th Dec 2005 06:23 in reply to "ZFS License"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

Maybe someone can clarify for me, but the OpenSolaris CDDL doesn't seem to be compatible with the revised BSD license under which DragonFly is released. Maybe I'm missing something?

You are.

1) CDDL is a file based license, not everything under DragonFly is under a "different" BSD license.

2) The DragonFly license is file based too.

3) Matt is no stranger to licensing I am fully confident that he knows what he's doing.

4) It is my personal belief that even the modified DragonFly BSD license could be considered compatible since again CDDL is a file based license...

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