Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Dec 2005 13:03 UTC, submitted by zam001
X11, Window Managers Aaron Siego of KDE: "It would be very nice if our X server could use OpenGL directly for its display and composition. Because then we could have hardware accelerated effects that are not only cool looking, but also very useful. Well, there is just such a project underway, called XGL. But don't hold your breath. The development of XGL has been largely removed from the community and is being done behind closed doors. Who is this company, you ask, that would take the development of something as potentially important as this out of the community and put it behind closed doors? Novell."
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RE: sad but...
by null_pointer_us on Tue 20th Dec 2005 14:39 UTC in reply to "sad but..."
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Sure it is a bit shady to quietly develop it without others helping...

How is that inherently shady?

This is the Real World (TM). If Novell put resources behind XGL while everyone else left it to languish, then they should get more in return than everyone else. The return on their investment should be a limited period of exclusivity as long as they open the code after that.

I do not understand this bias against businesses.

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RE[2]: sad but...
by on Tue 20th Dec 2005 14:50 in reply to "RE: sad but..."
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Of course they can do it. But that's not how OSS works. Look at RedHat. They probably are the single company who made most investements into OSS, and yet what they develop is all publicly available and released under the GPL.
Too bad that all the SUSE management quit long time ago... Monkey-heads are now running the company... and it shows.

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RE[2]: sad but...
by SEJeff on Tue 20th Dec 2005 15:56 in reply to "RE: sad but..."
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2005-11-05

Let me rephrase that... Novell is touting themselves to have "embraced open source". While they are doing EXCELLENT things for the Linux / OSS community, the best development model is full open source.

I'm not saying they should OSS all of their products, I'm saying that they should follow the open source development model when they work on open source.

As stated before, I think it's great they have picked it up at all. It's just that it would be developed faster if more people could work on their code.

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RE[3]: sad but...
by on Tue 20th Dec 2005 17:55 in reply to "RE[2]: sad but..."
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Faster if open? Not necessarily. Others have noted that there is a lack of people with the necessary skills for this work. Maybe the team is best served by being able to focus on getting the work done, and not having the extra chores that go along with the more open process at this point...at least for the first cut. I'm sure it'll be quicker, and having the first good such product of its type out there *is* what will get others to line up behind it. No doubt it will be fully opened as soon as a good base implementation is ready. Don't worry so much.

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