Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Dec 2005 14:17 UTC, submitted by Anonymous
Qt Trolltech has just released Qt 4.1. Many new features were added since Qt 4.0, including integrated support for rendering SVG drawings and animations, a PDF backend to the Qt printing system and a lightweight unit testing framework. Qt Designer, OpenGL support and Visual Studio .NET integration were updated too.
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RE: QT for windows
by on Tue 20th Dec 2005 16:53 UTC in reply to "QT for windows"

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VS-C++ express dose not have MFC, you also have to download an additional SDK to develop native applications. VS-C++ is laid out for .NET and .NET only. If you want to developer native applications you will need to either a) develop on pure Win32 or b) get extra libraries. Qt is a good choice for people wanting to develop native apps, but it is only free for GPL applications (or if nobody will EVER see your app) so get a license if you want to sell your stuff.

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RE[2]: QT for windows
by Simba on Tue 20th Dec 2005 17:24 in reply to "RE: QT for windows"
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2005-10-08

"VS-C++ express dose not have MFC, you also have to download an additional SDK to develop native applications. VS-C++ is laid out for .NET and .NET only."

Sure... Except you could buy two copies of Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Edition for the cost of one Qt license for Windows.

And if I want to do cross-platform work, I'm going to go with wxWidgets or Gtk and not even give Qt a second glance after it's ridiculous $6,000 pricetag if I want to do cross platform development that includes Windows.

Edited 2005-12-20 17:26

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RE[3]: QT for windows
by on Tue 20th Dec 2005 17:42 in reply to "RE[2]: QT for windows"
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Whine, whine, whine, whinge, whinge, whinge. If you are doing commercial software development, how much is $6000?

This "argument" is getting very old and very lame.

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RE[3]: QT for windows
by on Tue 20th Dec 2005 17:59 in reply to "RE[2]: QT for windows"
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You ignored the premise of the original argument in this thread; Visual Studio C++ Express is free so why do you need Qt. I think I answered that satisfactory, I could have gone on about other toolkits but since this is in the discussion about the Qt 4.1 release and the original question was about Qts relevance I didn't.

You are totally entitled to your opinion, but I dislike my answer to a previous question being hijacked to make a negative comment about Qt like that. You don't like Qt, C++, Qts price or the face of Trolltechs founders for that mater, don't use it.

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RE[3]: QT for windows
by Happel on Tue 20th Dec 2005 18:09 in reply to "RE[2]: QT for windows"
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2005-11-16

"Yada Yada Yada.."

Trolltech has ~4000 customers. I think they know better what they are doing and how they price their product. If you cannot afford that Trolltech is not holding gun on your head. You can use GTK/FLTK whatever you wish. So please stop that stupid bullshit.

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RE[3]: QT for windows
by leos on Tue 20th Dec 2005 18:11 in reply to "RE[2]: QT for windows"
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2005-09-21

It's a tradeoff. Either pay less and do more work or pay more money up front and work less. If your time is not extremely cheap, I think the investment in Qt is worth it.
Unless you've coded with Qt, Gtk, and WxWidgets, you won't understand that. Qt saves a ton of development time, that's why they can get away with selling it for a high price. If it wasn't worth the price, Trolltech wouldn't exist.

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RE[3]: QT for windows
by cr8dle2grave on Tue 20th Dec 2005 18:21 in reply to "RE[2]: QT for windows"
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2005-07-11

_And if I want to do cross-platform work, I'm going to go with wxWidgets or Gtk and not even give Qt a second glance after it's ridiculous $6,000 pricetag if I want to do cross platform development that includes Windows._

Good. You've made your choice based on your needs. Others have different needs and, judging by Trolltech's growing business, Qt satisfies those requirements. So why complain? Because a Qt commecrcial license isn't worth it to you doesn't mean it isn't worth it to someone else.

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RE[3]: QT for windows
by kaiwai on Wed 21st Dec 2005 02:39 in reply to "RE[2]: QT for windows"
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2005-07-06

$5000 expensive? Please, its chump change, and depending on which country you're in, alot of the times, you can claim a good portion of that back through the tax system.

$5000 for toolkit that is garanteeded to work out of the box for all platforms is pretty good blood deal - many for Joe Struggling Coder, but for the Adobes and the like, the price of Qt is chump change in the grand scheme of things.

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