Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Dec 2005 18:37 UTC, submitted by Robert Escue
IBM Unix isn't a flashy market. But what distinction there is has been going to Sun Microsystems lately, by making its Unix-based Solaris operating system available as open-source software. Last week, IBM moved to put its AIX Unix operating system back on everybody's radar by revealing plans to create a development center on its Austin, Texas, campus to speed up AIX development.
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RE[2]: One size fits all?
by Simba on Tue 20th Dec 2005 23:06 UTC in reply to "RE: One size fits all?"
Simba
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2005-10-08

" at least with Linux competition isn't crushed illegally as soon as it poses a threat."

Yeah... In Linux competition is only crushed by the fact that they have to compete with something that is free. But for some reason, it seems to be ok that Linux drives commercial competetion down the toilet, but it is not ok for Microsoft to do the same thing. Don't you think there is a bit of a double-standard going here?

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RE[3]: One size fits all?
by cr8dle2grave on Tue 20th Dec 2005 23:41 in reply to "RE[2]: One size fits all?"
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2005-07-11

Huh? Linux does not drive "commercial competetion down the toilet". In fact according to IDC the overall Linux market is expected to reach over 35 Billion by 2008 and is the fastest growing segment of the global server market by a considerable margin. In any case, the conventional justification for competitive markets is not that it makes it easier to earn a buck, but rather that it makes it easier for the consumer to save a buck.

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RE[4]: One size fits all?
by Simba on Tue 20th Dec 2005 23:47 in reply to "RE[3]: One size fits all?"
Simba Member since:
2005-10-08

"Huh? Linux does not drive "commercial competetion down the toilet"."

Of course it does. Look at what it did to commercial UNIX.

"segment of the global server market by a considerable margin."

No disagreement there. But the vast majority of the "global server market" running on Linux was never paid for in any way, shape, or form.

"In any case, the conventional justification for competitive markets is not that it makes it easier to earn a buck, but rather that it makes it easier for the consumer to save a buck."

Sure. And that's the conventional justification for those in the U.S. who claim that outsourcing to India, China, Russia, etc. is good for our economy. It makes it easier for consumers to save a buck. And yes, it does make it easier for consumers to save a buck. But it also puts people out of work, and causes factories to close, and companies to scale back on benefits, and give paycuts, and sometimes even go bankrupt.

So at what point does the consumer saving a buck become not worth the cost to other peoples welfare?

Edited 2005-12-20 23:50

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RE[3]: One size fits all?
by Celerate on Tue 20th Dec 2005 23:58 in reply to "RE[2]: One size fits all?"
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2005-06-29

"Yeah... In Linux competition is only crushed by the fact that they have to compete with something that is free."

Well in that case there wouldn't be Microsoft and Apple today would there. There wouldn't be Adobe or Intuit or Corel, the list goes on. There are even several Linux distributions that cost money and they are doing well, take Mandriva and Linspire for example. People don't simply use Linux because it's free, that is part of the appeal but the real reason they use it is because they like it.

"But for some reason, it seems to be ok that Linux drives commercial competetion down the toilet, but it is not ok for Microsoft to do the same thing. Don't you think there is a bit of a double-standard going here?"

Microsoft broke laws, they leveraged their existing OEM customers and user base to commit anti-competitive acts against several companies throughoug their history. Microsoft killed off products that were both better and less expensive than their own rather than compete fairly and have to innovate to keep a dominant market position.

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RE[4]: One size fits all?
by Simba on Wed 21st Dec 2005 00:09 in reply to "RE[3]: One size fits all?"
Simba Member since:
2005-10-08

"People don't simply use Linux because it's free, that is part of the appeal but the real reason they use it is because they like it."

Hobbiests don't use it because it is free. Most businesses that use it do use it because it is free. Look at most Linux case studies of large businesses that are using it. What is the most common reason? Not technical surperiority. Not open source. But "Cause it saved money".

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