Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 7th Jan 2006 18:50 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y The study described in the following article was done by Mirosoft, so run to the kitchen and get some grains of salt. "Microsoft's Linux and open-source lab on the Redmond campus has been running some interesting tests of late, one of which was looking at how well the latest Windows client software runs on legacy hardware in comparison to its Linux competitors. The tests, which found that Windows performed as well as Linux on legacy hardware when installed and run out-of-the-box, were done in part to give Microsoft the data it needed to effectively "put to rest the myth that Linux can run on anything." Do with the results as you please, but the topic is interesting nonetheless. What are your experiences?
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Toss the ancient shit out the window
by Bit_Rapist on Sat 7th Jan 2006 22:48 UTC
Bit_Rapist
Member since:
2005-11-13

If you stuck in a situation where you have to deal with old arss hardware like P2 300 Mhz. or lower machines with only 64 megs of ram do yourself a favor and find a better job with a company that dosen't have its head up its ass.

I worked for an outfit like this once, they had nothing but 233Mhz. or lower pentium machines and of course they expected these to run a pretty *modern* software package with windows 2000 and various apps. The excuse was always "we don't have the money to upgrade". My answer to that is "if you depend on the system(s) you cannot afford to NOT upgrade."

I got sick of working with ancient shit and told them that either they find the money to buy ome good modern hardware or they could use my wages to buy it because I was leaving.

I bailed and today I have a better paying job with a company that dosen't f--k around trying to mickey mouse old computers with modern operating systems. These guys buy good *NEW* hardware when we need it and life is oh so much simpler.

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DittoBox Member since:
2005-07-08

This may apply for almost any commercial entity but from my experience in a few non-profits this just doens't add up. They buy what they absolutely need, and everything else has to wait. The stuff that's laying around is running win2k to connect to the domain and that's about it. Stuff is salvaged as much as possible, and if something needs to be purchased it is, but only small parts not new computers. The budget simply isn't there.

The bottom line is really what matters.

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DittoBox Member since:
2005-07-08

Who voted me down, and why? I voiced my experience, this is ridiculous.

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Celerate Member since:
2005-06-29

"If you stuck in a situation where you have to deal with old arss hardware like P2 300 Mhz. or lower machines with only 64 megs of ram [...]"

You've just described 90% of schools and businesses I know of.

"I got sick of working with ancient shit and told them that either they find the money to buy ome good modern hardware or they could use my wages to buy it because I was leaving."

I've seen companies I know are gambling with their livelyhood by refusing to get new hardware. Yes it's expensive, but they'll be beating their heads on the wall later for being so naive as to think that they could build a lasting business off computers which they never intend to upgrade or replace. For example there's a local sign shop here and it's running off very old computers, printers and cutting machines. Right now hard times are just over the horizon for them since their ancient printer/cutter software doesn't support any modern format any more except for one. To work around this they are using a Corel product to convert what they do get into that one remaining supported format. When that format changes or Corel drops support I don't want to be around to see them close shop since they're friends of the family. I tried to suggest they upgrade, and I tried to stress the importance, but they seem financially constrained and I didn't want to panic them so I might not have gotten the message across. Either way it would have been a fairly expensive upgrade getting new computers, printers and cutting machines, but without those new machines the business could go under before long.

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raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

It also depends on the job in hand. Most of the Windows apologists around here always come off with the line that the PC is just a tool. fair enough.

I know quite a few solicitors, and although they have up-to-date laptops for themselves, they also have completely obsolete computers sitting in the corner doing a job.

I am not talking Win2000 obsolete, I am talking about computers that run DOS on a 10MB hard disk.

These computers are stuck in an office as a proper tool, doing a few simple jobs, like printing invoices for customers, printing faxes that come in over the modem, doing the payroll, printing the company headed paper.

These computers can continue doing these jobs until they finally give up the ghost and die.

However, Microsoft would have you all believe that they need the latest OS to do these things, and because they are underpowered, they need to replace the hardware to. You will not be able to print the payroll/invoices, unless you use the latest and greatest software we sell. BOLLOCKS.

But the saddest thing is.... the majority of decision makers believe them.

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