Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 8th Jan 2006 10:41 UTC, submitted by Falko Timme
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "This is a detailed tutorial about the steps to set up a Ubuntu based server (Ubuntu 5.10 - Breezy Badger) to act as file- and print server for Windows workstations in small workgroups. This howto uses the tdb backend for Samba to store passwords and account information. This is suitable for workgroups for up to 250 users and is easier to setup than an LDAP backend."
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RE: 2 big problems
by CrLf on Sun 8th Jan 2006 17:52 UTC in reply to "2 big problems"
CrLf
Member since:
2006-01-03

"and we're stilling hacking command lines and config files.... "

Maybe because it still is the best way to do things...?

Graphical tools are easier to use, so what? They become a serious pain when you know what you are doing and, more often than not, get in the way of doing more advanced stuff.

Servers are not desktops, what matters is being efficient and productive not easying things up for aunt Tillie...

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RE[2]: 2 big problems
by yanik on Sun 8th Jan 2006 18:28 in reply to "RE: 2 big problems"
yanik Member since:
2005-07-13

well said.

I don't want to see Xwindow nowhere near my nix servers!

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RE[2]: 2 big problems
by Celerate on Sun 8th Jan 2006 20:02 in reply to "RE: 2 big problems"
Celerate Member since:
2005-06-29

"Graphical tools are easier to use, so what? They become a serious pain when you know what you are doing and, more often than not, get in the way of doing more advanced stuff. "

That's why they're optional, the real reason people don't want X11 on their servers is because it's an unecessary use of resources, how often are people going to use the server, if it's properly set up the answer will be very seldom, maybe once a week at most.

Configuration tools may not be right for everyone, but they should still be an option, people with the knowhow can then do their configuration with vi and a keyboard, while less experienced people who want things to "just work" can use a user interface. This doesn't mean including X11 though, curses based interfaces and command line configuration wizards are fine, and in fact I'd encourage their inclusion as an optional package for non-technical users.

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RE[2]: 2 big problems
by Javier O. Augusto on Sun 8th Jan 2006 20:32 in reply to "RE: 2 big problems"
Javier O. Augusto Member since:
2005-08-10

I don't know if by know "User Manager for Domains" (the old one who came with the WinNT 4 CD) works out of the box with Samba 3.x

I would really like to know if it's working, since "User Manager for Domains" is a very handy tool for admin a Samba Server.

PS: this is the newest release by Microsoft.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=C0011AB8-3...

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RE[2]: 2 big problems
by RGCook on Sun 8th Jan 2006 21:07 in reply to "RE: 2 big problems"
RGCook Member since:
2005-07-12

[i]Servers are not desktops, what matters is being efficient and productive not easying things up for aunt Tillie...<i/>

and so goes the mindset that will preclude Linux from rapid adoption. I think the article made the point for small networks -you know- thinks like a few computers that need to share, in a SOHO setup. The corporations can hack at the Terminal till their fingers bleed. And eyes for that matter!

Simple is good.

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