Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 15th Jan 2006 23:32 UTC
Linux "Linux has made major inroads on servers and in data centers running both open-source and proprietary applications on millions of computers worldwide. We've recently seen the rise of Linux on mobile devices. But the Linux desktop remains elusive. We know it's out there, but it only now seems to be approaching the tipping point."
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RE[2]: What linux needs...
by RawMustard on Mon 16th Jan 2006 09:15 UTC in reply to "RE: What linux needs..."
RawMustard
Member since:
2005-10-10

White box makers are not scared of Microsoft, yet they don't offer linux, why?

Because it's a pain in the arse to setup on brand new hardware and existing linux drivers are watered down, lame alternatives to the fully featured, optimised windows drivers.

Nothing will change in the desktop linux world until hardware makers give it the same respect as windows!

That means having some way for the average joe to install a driver and not have to wait for his distro maker to offer it in some deb/rpm file.

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RE[3]: What linux needs...
by hal2k1 on Mon 16th Jan 2006 09:25 in reply to "RE[2]: What linux needs..."
hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

"Because it's a pain in the arse to setup on brand new hardware and existing linux drivers are watered down, lame alternatives to the fully featured, optimised windows drivers. "

Sigh!

Not this rubbish AGAIN!!! This is JUST NOT TRUE.

I already told you:

The best at the moment seems to be PCLinuxOS. Ubuntu, KANOTIX or MEPIS are close. All four come on one CD, and install a complete system (yes, with all desktop applications) from scratch in about 15 minutes.

15 minutes is 15 minutes.

As per my snapshot (see down the bottom of the Synaptic window): http://members.dodo.com.au/~quiet1/install-azureus.jpg

1108 packages installed. In 15 minutes ... a complete desktop system ... all hardware working!!

Do try to keep up. There is no "pain in the arse" about it! This is miles easier and faster on Linux than trying to get a Windows system up from a blank hard disk to a complete installed desktop system.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~quiet1/snapshot39.jpg

... even the audio and a GUI hardware control panel.

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RE[4]: What linux needs...
by RawMustard on Mon 16th Jan 2006 10:07 in reply to "RE[3]: What linux needs..."
RawMustard Member since:
2005-10-10

Sigh!

Not this rubbish AGAIN!!! This is JUST NOT TRUE.


So tell me how to get dual monitors working under Ubuntu with my Nvidia 7800GTX as easy as I can in windows and tell me how I can get all the same functionality from it as I do from the windows drivers?

Tell me how I can get the TV card that came with my Asus P5WD2 Premium Motherboard to work under Ubuntu?

Tell me how to get the Wireless card on the same motherboard working, can I just download a driver off the net?

Tell me why my Epson GT 7000 USB scanner crashs Gnome under Ubuntu or requires me to be Root to use it? And this is not even new hardware.

Thought So!


Do try to keep up. There is no "pain in the arse" about it! This is miles easier and faster on Linux than trying to get a Windows system up from a blank hard disk to a complete installed desktop system.

I would agree if you have simple hardware and it is all recognised, but one glitch, and windows is done in an hour, Ubuntu on my system is still not 100% since Hoary was released!

Stop spreading crap about how great linux is, it's good, but it's not that good!

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