Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Jan 2006 22:10 UTC, submitted by James Dickens
Oracle and SUN Someone has found the manual to Sun's Ultra 40 - which hasn't even been announced yet. The machine clearly is the bigger brother of the Ultra 20. It apparently sports two AMD Opteron processors (single or dualcore; 2.0Ghz or faster; 1MB cache), eight PC3200 DIMM slots (2GB per DIMM), and more. It will come pre-loaded with Solaris 10 (obviously) but RedHat/SUSE Linux Enterprise/Windows are also supported, in both 32bit and 64bit.
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Food for thought:
by lemmy on Wed 18th Jan 2006 06:57 UTC
lemmy
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2005-07-10

So this is a pc clone, albeit with rather nice specs.

Now, why should I buy a dual opteron box for $(huge) from sun, when i can basically build a quad opteron box for less?

Because the sun box runs hardware that solaris/x86 is certified for? Ok, if i really need solaris/x86.

Why do I need Solaris? Because i have some legacy apps in my company that run on solaris and have been awfully expensive... But wait, they all run on solaris/sparc...

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RE: Food for thought:
by Matzon on Wed 18th Jan 2006 07:21 in reply to "Food for thought:"
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2005-07-06

Why do we buy computers from Dell, when we can build a cheaper one ourselves? Because time is of value and we want better quality than you (typically) get from building a box yourself.

Please dont think that a sun box featuring opterons means that the whole box is somehow made up of mediocre components. This isn't the case.

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RE[2]: Food for thought:
by kaiwai on Wed 18th Jan 2006 16:03 in reply to "RE: Food for thought:"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You can make a cheaper computer than Dell? I"d love to see that - because everytime I've looked at both sides of the equation, the home built kit aways ends up turning out to be atleast a few hundred dollars more than the equally spec'ed out Dell.

Btw, I do think the default is a dual core - but the option is give I guess as not all need or what the power that a quad core could bring, and the licencing mess that follows it as well.

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RE[2]: Food for thought:
by jamesd on Wed 18th Jan 2006 07:39 in reply to "Food for thought:"
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2006-01-17

perhaps, you are running a business, and perfer to have someone there to maintain your systems, how cheap are those white boxes when you have to put a fleet a techs just to argue with the OEMs that they should replace the component and begging for RMA's. With Sun when you have problem, call sun they say send us the broken parts, your replacements are in the mail. And of course the parts are high quality. You can also upgrade to platnium support, and sun will be knocking on your door in less than 4 hours, there goal is 2 hours, asking to see the machine and repair it.

BTW most of those cheap white boxes dont have 8 dimm slots or 2x pci-e 16x slots. neither do they have 4x plug in play sata hotswap drives, no screws, release a lever, pull out old drives, push in new drive.

you get what you pay for.

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