Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Jan 2006 18:14 UTC, submitted by Anonymous
Windows "Monad, also known more formally as the MSH Command Shell, is a next generation Windows command shell. Built on top of the .NET Framework, MSH provides a powerful infrastructure for the automation of a wide range of administrative tasks. At last, the command line is a first-class citizen in the world of Windows system management."
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RE[4]: Wow.
by Windows Sucks on Wed 18th Jan 2006 22:54 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Wow. "
Windows Sucks
Member since:
2005-11-10

Actually what MS did for a long time was to get people to pay a bunch of money to buy their products by making the savings to the customer off my back.

Basicly MS watered down the support site of the computer industry by doing 2 things:

1. Making it so easy to get your MCSE that anyone could get one.

2. Making it so simple to admin that a lot of companies dont even pay admins anymore, they just get their A+ cert PC techs to do the work.

Yes, that is good and saves money for companies in the short term (Till something goes wrong!) Then people have to look long, high and wide for a good admin to come clean things up!

And now MS is going to come back and say, "Well guess what we are now going to make and interface that you can type cryptic commands into while in Windows, that will be native to Windows!" LOL!

And we all know it's all because of Linux that they had to do it. It's not something they are doing because it's the best way of doing things. LOL!

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RE[5]: Wow.
by sappyvcv on Wed 18th Jan 2006 23:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Wow. "
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Sales and Marketing people are idiots.

Again, my point is that you don't have to type cryptic commands. You can do it all through GUI still.

I'm not sure what the rest of your post was trying to say..

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RE[6]: Wow.
by Windows Sucks on Wed 18th Jan 2006 23:17 in reply to "RE[5]: Wow. "
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

I was not saying that you could not still use the GUI etc.

My point was that once apon a time it took actual knowledge to be an admin, not just point and click done.

You actually needed to know what commands were for, what they did, how they worked together etc, etc.

Microsoft came along and said "Hey you don't need to pay that guy who knows all that 100,000 a year, you can get your PC tech to do almost the same tasks and pay them to do two jobs, network admin and PC tech. Save yourself tons of money in admin costs while you pay us a ton of money."

Never mind that you have to reboot your servers often like in NT3, 4 and 2000. Never mind that you have to deal with a lack of security etc! You won't have that big paycheck anymore.

And companies went for it. Now all of a sudden you are telling us that hey the command line is important again, not only important but we are going to make one that has a LOT of cryptic commands just like Unix used to. It's gonna be powerful (Like Unix has been) and important so check it out.

And people jump on it like it's some new holy grail. LOL! Funny!

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RE[5]: Wow.
by tomcat on Thu 19th Jan 2006 03:06 in reply to "RE[4]: Wow. "
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

And now MS is going to come back and say, "Well guess what we are now going to make and interface that you can type cryptic commands into while in Windows, that will be native to Windows!" LOL!

Why do you insist on making this an either-or kind of thing? MS provides both a GUI and a command-line. MS isn't saying that you have to choose one or the other. For chrissakes, use whatever tool suits the job. End of story.

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