Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Jan 2006 19:14 UTC
Morphos Genesi has launched their EFIKA developer's program. The EFIKA is a "performance evaluation board based around the MPC5200B PowerPC system-on-chip from Freescale Semiconductor" The only thing you need to do, so it seems, is post a possible use for the EFIKA board on a thread on Power.org.
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Theophilos
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2006-01-20

Whether Theo is a jerk is not the issue? Why even bother with an ad-hominem? In any case, I do not see a motivation for theo to lie about something like this.

If it were just the matter of one developer claiming he were screwed over, then I might be hesitant to believe. However, when you have 10 developers across several projects who claim they were not paid what they were promised, it begins to raise some eyebrows.

I still have not read anything that makes Genesi's actions understandable, much less, justifiable. Until then, I distrust them. I am not going to buy from a company that would screw over it's own developers. Partly because a sympathasize for the affected developers, but also because giving money to such untrustworthy seems about as good of an idea as buying stereo equipment from the back of an unmarked vehicle in an urban ghetto.

If you have some links that shed light on Genesi's innocence, I'd be glad to see them.

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Rasmus Member since:
2005-11-12

Bah! Just posted a link. Genesi has done plenty of good things. Just look at the Power.org thread linked from here. See any people complaining while they post?

Theophilos, #of comments..."1"

Try harder troll!

Rasmus

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gary Member since:
2006-01-20

In any case, I do not see a motivation for theo to lie about something like this.

He didn't necessarily lie, but he clearly made statements that either the facts didn't bear out or that were made based on misunderstandings. Read the relevant messages at the URL posted above and come to your own conclusions. I don't know much about the man apart from what I read related to the Pegasos OpenBSD port, but his reactions in that connection might well lead a person to think that Theo might well react strongly and quickly before getting the full story on something.

For example, it's more than a little ironic for hundreds of developers and users around the world to read, with their Pegasos machines, Theo's statement that "there are almost NO WORKING machines in existance". See what I mean?

I still have not read anything that makes Genesi's actions understandable, much less, justifiable. Until then, I distrust them.

Again, have you read through the posts on the PDC page referenced above? Note in particular the retractions.

I am not going to buy from a company that would screw over it's own developers. Partly because a sympathasize for the affected developers . . .

Totally understandable. But keep in mind that you are apparently accepting the word of one party in a dispute at face value while assuming the worst about the other. While there is no question that Genesi has been underfunded and has had trouble meeting its obligations to people at times, it doesn't follow that every claim against them is valid.

Publicly countering even unjustified accusations doesn't do a company's rep any good so i suggest you (or anyone with a real concern) contact Bill Buck directly if you want more information about these issues.

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Theophilos Member since:
2006-01-20

It was obvious from reading Theo's post that he was wrong about the availability of the Genesi hardware. I am not sure when Theo posted the message, but I assumed that it was before a significant number of board were produced. My guess is that Theo assumed that Genesi was a scam company rather than just a bad company. However, what led him to this opinion: the credible claim that a developer contracted to work for Genesi was unpaid.

Regarding the retractions, I only found one regarding some false reports of sabotage. However, it only retracted those specific claims and was sure to include "This is by no means an absolvement of any other issues." Genesi does not have to engage in sabotage to be considered untrustworthy: simply not paying their employees is enough. As far as I know, that specific claim has not been retracted by at least two people from two different projects.

Not every claim has to be true. For a company with zero street cred to screw even one person over is a clear indication that something is very wrong.

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