Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jan 2006 19:20 UTC
Legal "DRM is a lie. When an agenda driven DRM infection peddler gets on a soapbox and blathers about how it is necessary to protect the BMW payments of a producer who leeches off the talented, rest assured, they are lying to you. DRM has absolutely nothing to do with protecting content, it is about protecting the wallets of major corporations. The funny thing is they aren't protecting it from you, they are protecting it from each other."
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This article is a useless rant
by tomcat on Mon 23rd Jan 2006 23:37 UTC
tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

Just more pablum from the "data must be free" crowd. DRM is about raising the cost of piracy for the average person to the point that they would more likely conform with the copyright. It isn't about eliminating piracy. That's an impossible goal.

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microshag Member since:
2005-11-30

"It isn't about eliminating piracy. That's an impossible goal."

Indeed. And maybe the entertainment industry should stop to consider just why so many people are unconcerned about piracy, and why they have a lack of sympathy for the RIAA and MPAA.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

It has nothing to do with piracy at all.

It does nothing to raise the cose of piracy - it does however violate the constitution of most democratic states, in that it limits constitutional rights.

I know the american system is bOrked, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world should make our systems equally bOrked.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

It has nothing to do with piracy at all.

Uh, yeah, it does. Don't be disingenuous.

It does nothing to raise the cose of piracy

Of course it does. Most people have no idea how to duplicate a DVD, for example. There is therefore a knowledge cost associated with pirating that content.

- it does however violate the constitution of most democratic states, in that it limits constitutional rights.

Then fight it in court.

I know the american system is bOrked, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world should make our systems equally bOrked.

Yeah, the american system is so "bOrked" that it has the number 1 economy in the world and dominates the content industry. Wow, talk about "bOrked". The Eurosocialists would love to be in such a position.

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bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

Since when do purchased items have constitutional rights? As far as I know, only humans have constitutional rights. Purchased music, movies, and software aren't purchased at all--you buy a usage licence only.

Yes, it would be nice if everyone played by the rules and the music was inexpensive and the artist made plenty of money and you could enjoy your music on every device equally but DRM isn't the worst part of this situation--it's the publishing record company and their supporting quasi-governmental organisation, which helps them to maximise profit but taking from everyone else.

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JeffS Member since:
2005-07-12

"DRM is about raising the cost of piracy for the average person to the point that they would more likely conform with the copyright."

This statement assumes that most average people steal content, or don't respect copyright.

When you look at the fact that most average people don't steal, and do respect copyright, then your whole premise is blown completely out of the water.

People just want to buy their music/movies, and be able to play it on their various devices and PCs, without the hassle of DRM.

The article is 100% right in that DRM is about companies trying to obtain virtual monopolies, and/or screw eash other, and/or edge each other out of the big content consuming pie.

DRM is a joke, and is completely useless, and only screws honest, paying consumers. Plain and simple.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

This statement assumes that most average people steal content, or don't respect copyright.

Don't they though? I don't know very many people (actually, only a few) who have a passing knowledge of how to pirate and don't do it. For example, I was riding with a friend in her car, and she was listening to the latest Nickelback CD. (A band I don't really care for, but that's beside the point.) She just casually mentioned that her sister bought the CD and 'made a copy' for her. And this is otherwise a pretty honest person. Most people who consider themselves honest won't hesitate to burn a copy of something that their friends own.

As for preventing casual piracy, this same person attempted to let her stepdad 'borrow' her Windows XP install CD, but the product activation barked at them when they tried to install. Of course, this is easily worked around, but you gotta have the knowledge. And most people who have that knowledge will do it. (BTW: Personally, I don't pirate stuff.)

Edited 2006-01-24 02:18

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Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

DRM is about raising the cost of piracy for the average person to the point that they would more likely conform with the copyright.

Yeah and the fact that it increases the media conglomerates stranglehold over the media all while making them even more money then they do now is just a happy coincidence. ( http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/736.html )

Let's just ignore the fact that they can eliminate a great deal more piracy by simply lowering their prices. Hands up everyone that's old enough to remember the lie that "cd's are only this expensive because they were new and there was a lower supply."
People are being ripped off, and as such they don't feel guilty about returning the favour. I know I don't.

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chemical_scum Member since:
2005-11-02

DRM is about raising the cost of piracy for the average person

Piracy is the the illegal armed seizure of ships at sea to seize valuable cargo and also it may involve holding the crew and passengers to ransom. It is a violent an dangerous crime which currently seems to be growing around the world. It is causing a serious problem for international law enforcement agencies and is also a serious problem for for maritime insurance companies.

It is however a crime not generally carried out by "the average person". Please use english words to say what they mean, rather than corporate sponsored newspeak otherwise we all crimethink. This is doubleplusungood again.

Edited 2006-01-24 05:46

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MadDwarf Member since:
2005-07-07

"Piracy" to describe the unauthorized copying of protected works has been used since the 1800s

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sean batten Member since:
2005-07-06

DRM is about raising the cost of piracy for the average person

Piracy is the the illegal armed seizure of ships at sea to seize valuable cargo and also it may involve holding the crew and passengers to ransom. It is a violent an dangerous crime which currently seems to be growing around the world. It is causing a serious problem for international law enforcement agencies and is also a serious problem for for maritime insurance companies.

It is however a crime not generally carried out by "the average person". Please use english words to say what they mean, rather than corporate sponsored newspeak otherwise we all crimethink. This is doubleplusungood again.


Wow..! Chill out...

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