Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Jul 2005 16:59 UTC
Debian and its clones "I invite everyone interested to join the Utnubu Team. Utnubu stands for doing what Ubuntu does, just the other way around: We want to take the things Ubuntu does and that are missing in Debian, and - where appliciable - put them in Debian."
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couldn;t hurt
by Hayabusa on Mon 25th Jul 2005 20:55 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-25

given the shoddy state of Debian Unusable err unstable porting Ubuntu packages might not be a bad idea, at least they have their act together and hoary is *USEABLE* .

Amusing the total lack of coverage about the Debian Uneable gcc 4.0 migration and how it borks everything from installing packages like gaim to running programs like kopete and saving files from web browsers.

The migration to 4.0 and x.org is needed, but the cost is just way too high. I'm tempted myself to just switch to Ubuntu at this point and leave the egos known as Debian developers to have solitude party with their attitude of "don;t expect unstable to work"

It'll be interesting to see if any negative press here is reported with the recent debian changes. horrah linux takes a giant step back into the stone age

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RE: couldn;t hurt
by raboof on Mon 25th Jul 2005 21:20 in reply to "couldn;t hurt"
raboof Member since:
2005-07-24

given the shoddy state of Debian Unusable err unstable porting Ubuntu packages might not be a bad idea

Debian unstable was meant to be unstable. With the recent release of the new stable, major upgrades and breakage in unstable was announced. And that's exactly what happened.

If you want a solid well-working system, get Debian Stable. If you want bleeding edge versions of everything, look somewhere else. If you want to develop on the next stable version of Debian, use unstable. But don't expect it to work.

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RE: couldn;t hurt
by BryanFeeney on Tue 26th Jul 2005 09:57 in reply to "couldn;t hurt"
BryanFeeney Member since:
2005-07-06

As has already been said Debian unstable is meant to be unstable.

There are three debian distros

Unstable (Sid):
This is almost always broken in some way, as it always has the latest and greatest. Hence the name. It's used to shake out bugs.

Testing (Etch):
This is where packages which have been more or less stablised go. It's suitable for end-users on non-critical systems. It's the basis of the next Debian release.

Stable (Sarge):
This is the stable, officially released distribution, suitable for use on critical systems.


The problem is that Ubuntu tracks the unstable branch, which is in a permanent state of flux. Thus, their patches aren't particularly useful as they apply to software that's rapidly changing, and is not in a stable state to begin with.

If they tracked Testing (which does stay current, albeit a month or two behind app releases) it would be far easier for the two communities to collaborate.

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