Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 26th Jan 2006 02:21 UTC, submitted by Moparx
Linux Linus posted on the Linux Kernel Mailing List today and said that the kernel will not be moving to GPLv3. "The Linux kernel is under the GPL version 2. Not anything else. Some individual files are licenceable under v3, but not the kernel in general. And quite frankly, I don't see that changing."
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RE: Doesn't appreciate freedom.
by Matt Giacomini on Thu 26th Jan 2006 06:06 UTC in reply to "Doesn't appreciate freedom."
Matt Giacomini
Member since:
2005-07-06

"its been clear for quite some time that he doesn't put much value on the concept of Software freedom"

From what I have read of Linus has never cared much about the politics and religion of GPL.

In my "small neck of the woods" I have noticed two type of people:

1) People who go around preaching software politics and religion. All full of energy and grand ideas of how to reinvent software and save the world through some license.

2) People who put their heads down and write code and actually build the software. They pick a license that suites their needs, and generally their ideals, but for the most part it is about the code.

I find it funny when the software politicitian are surprised by the fact that many open source developers don't care much for the politics behind the movement. Like we are traitors, or have abandond the movement, or some other such crap....

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Shane Member since:
2005-07-06

In my "small neck of the woods" I have noticed two type of people:

1) People who go around preaching software politics and religion. All full of energy and grand ideas of how to reinvent software and save the world through some license.

2) People who put their heads down and write code and actually build the software. They pick a license that suites their needs, and generally their ideals, but for the most part it is about the code.

I find it funny when the software politicitian are surprised by the fact that many open source developers don't care much for the politics behind the movement. Like we are traitors, or have abandond the movement, or some other such crap....


I fully concur. The loudest zealots are usually the non-coders. To them, I am often tempted to ask: what was your contribution?

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r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

The loudest zealots are usually the non-coders. To them, I am often tempted to ask: what was your contribution?

Well, we could be tempted to say that our use of your code elevated you from being an invisible codemonkey to being an independent software developer... But we'll be nice and just say that we are your unpaid support and marketing staff.

We need you as much as you need us. Free and Open Source software is a symbiotic community affair. Users get software under very good conditions, developers get recognition (and attached benefits) for their software developments. Take out the non-coders and see if the whole FOSS thing still makes sense or is as big as it is now.

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thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

The GPL is not a religion, there's no religion at all involved there. It's a legal document written to be the license of the software written by the GNU project in their goal if writing a completely free operating system.

You don't really have to agree with the GPL or software freedom. Some people obviously don't, and they even created the "Open Source" definition to make that perfectly clear.

The FSF doesn't treat "Open Source" advocates as traitors or enemies. In fact, if you read a bit on fsf.org you'll see they collaborate on some work (a lot of people working on FSF projects are "open source" advocates for example). The only thing they usually try to do is make it clear to people that Free software is not the same as open source, because they don't want people to think that free software is about a development model for writing software.

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Kris Member since:
2005-07-24

You forgot
0) People who do neither
3) People who do boths (like RMS)

other than that, I agree.

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