Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Jan 2006 21:43 UTC
Windows In an interesting turn of events, Microsoft has said that the current Aero interface in the latest Vista build (the December CTP) is not the final UI, saying: "There are going to be GUI changes in Vista by the time the final release comes." However, not too long ago they claimed the current Aero UI was final. Will the real Microsoft developer please stand up?
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RE[8]: luna
by microshag on Fri 27th Jan 2006 06:53 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: luna"
microshag
Member since:
2005-11-30

Scary the thought that someone would have to get a new video card just to see the "pretty" effects in Vista. Still waiting to see something in the Vista gui that can't be done in KDE, meanwhile Aero doesn't appear to anything other than a cross between the Plastik and Crystal themes.

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RE[9]: luna
by Tom K on Fri 27th Jan 2006 11:24 in reply to "RE[8]: luna"
Tom K Member since:
2005-07-06

Sounds like you have a lot of reading to do about Vista.

I'm sick of these kind of uninformed opinions. When KDE can do compositing, true high-level shaders, 3D rendering, and create a resolution-independant GUI all on your 3D hardware, THEN you can say that KDE can do what Vista can do.

Until then, KDE is just a fancy DE on top of a toolkit on top of an archaic display technology with some hacks here and there to try to do something more than just regular, unaccelerated 2D.

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RE[10]: luna
by Ookaze on Fri 27th Jan 2006 14:10 in reply to "RE[9]: luna"
Ookaze Member since:
2005-11-14

Sounds like you have a lot of reading to do about Vista

Seems like you love spouting BS.

I'm sick of these kind of uninformed opinions

I'm not sick of yours, but you still spout a lot.

When KDE can do compositing, true high-level shaders, 3D rendering, and create a resolution-independant GUI all on your 3D hardware, THEN you can say that KDE can do what Vista can do

Let me see. High-level shaders is not provided by the desktop (that's the graphic card's driver work), 3D Rendering is not either (that's the graphic card's and its drivers' work). That leaves compositing (that KDE ALREADY provides, as evidenced on my wife's desktop) and resolution-independant GUI.
If you mean resolution independant in the way shown on the Vista previews, I'm afraid to disagree with you, because it's already there in KDE. If you mean like in Gnome with SVG themes (like with Nuvola that I use) then it's a work in progress (I still have not seen that in the Vista previews though).

Until then, KDE is just a fancy DE on top of a toolkit on top of an archaic display technology with some hacks here and there to try to do something more than just regular, unaccelerated 2D

Despite your BS, KDE is just fine.
It's actually a fancy DE on top of a toolkit that can already (as opposed to in a beta) do compositing, on top of an old display technology with some extensions (and that is improving every week) that succeeds in providing more than regular, accelerated 2D.

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RE[9]: luna
by sappyvcv on Fri 27th Jan 2006 15:33 in reply to "RE[8]: luna"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Still waiting to see something in the Vista gui that can't be done in KDE,

The "frost" look via pixel shading.

meanwhile Aero doesn't appear to anything other than a cross between the Plastik and Crystal themes.

*blink* Um... I'm not sure how to respond to that one.

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